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The Philadelphia killing of our fine men in blue reflect on the abysmal parenting by the parents of Levon Warner, Howard Cain, and Howard Cain (the scum that murdered Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski),

 

the parents of John Jordan Lewis (the scum who murdered Officer Charles Cassidy),

 

the parents of Solomon Montgomery, (the scum who murdered Officer Gary Skerski),

 

and the parents of Mumia, (the scum who murdered Officer Daniel Faulkner)

Morals, values and respect of others and the law come from lessons learned from your parents. When each of those mangy murders killed one of our fine police officers, it showed not only what lowlifes these murderers are, but also what despicable lowlifes their parents are also. And we also know in the case of John Lewis that his mother not only knew, but helped to conceal the information of where her son was and about the gun that he used was her gun.

 

These murderers will rot in hell, and they can thank their moral less, valueless parents for the lessons that put them there.

 

 

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skyebird
May 6, 2008 | 11:57 AM

You can not possibly be a mother an write such a stupid and ignorant comment. Those people that committed those crimes had a choice. They chose to be criminals. If you had kids then you would definitely know that you can go through their lives instilling all the morals and values that you want. You can put them in every Boy Scout Troop and give them the best example in the world but when they get to be young adults and make decisions on their own all that sometimes goes out the window and what they want to do kicks in.

I will agree with you on one point...if the mother took part in any way of harboring her son then she should be prosecuted as well.

I teach my children and have raised them with a firm hand but my boys are well aware that if you get into trouble the last place you would want to come is here because I will be your biggest snitch.

stylegal read my blog
May 6, 2008 | 2:31 PM

Sorry, I do not agree with you, values and morals are instilled at home.

It seems that you have raised you child well, as a firm hand is needed and now a days people don't use it enough.

Second I, like you would also snitch on my child that has done wrong.

I remember when I was 8 and my cousin and I went into a 5 & 10 and we both took nail polish, my Mom found out, and my Mom and my Aunt marched us back into the 5 & 10, we had to return the polish, they asked the manager of the store if we could sweep the floor. Then we were grounded for 2 weeks after that. That is part of instilling the values in a child.

And it seems these parents did nothing of the sort to instill any type of values in their children

Menamouse read my blog
May 6, 2008 | 5:36 PM

I agree with Stylegal. For the most party everything goes back to the way you were raised. There is always exceptions but if these murders were held accounting at home when they did wrong and if their parents led by example they most likely would have chose a different path.

stever2258 read my blog
May 6, 2008 | 9:38 PM

It may be parents, but it isn't always. Our system does not punish the criminals properly for the crimes they commit. Deterrents to crime are gone. This guy was in prison over 17 times and let out. He should have permanently been in prison, then this crime would not have been committed. Someone bent on committing crimes will get guns somewhere, legal or not. And when they have them illegally and commit murder, the court system will slap them on the hands, lock them up for a time and let them out. The death penalty used to be a deterrent as well. Now we are so spineless as a society, we won't execute proven mass murderers who have even confessed to the crime. It's not just parents we have to blame, it's our increasingly liberal government and its policies that foster irresponsibility and lack of any moral absolutes. And we're surprised? We shouldn't be. But society will have nothing to do with being held accountable for responsible and moral behavior; after all, they're free! You and I are not, but they are. We've become a very twisted and selfish society. We ought to learn a few lessons from Rome and its fall before it's too late.

yoyom read my blog
May 6, 2008 | 9:51 PM

I agree with Skyebird. Stylegal can't be a parent. I grew up in a two parent household until I was 11 when my father passed. My mother was very young. She raised three kids of her own and later had to raise her murdered sister two kids. I am now 40 years old with three children of my own. I have always instilled in my kids very good values. I get comments all the time on the behavior of my children. My kids ages are 21, 19 and 17. I to this day have not have a problem with them. I have been married to my husband for 22 years this year, I worked since age 16, I NEVER did drugs, I don't drink or hang out in clubs. We put our oldest through college, my son work and my youngest go to a private school in which I pay $618.00 a month and she is a honor student looking at a four scholarship. By the way my mother was able to buy each one of her kids a home in which I own and is paid for. After all my mother's hard work to provide for us, my one brother has been locked up and my other brother is on drugs. Please tell me where my mother went wrong or better yet, where did I go wrong if my children turns out to be a criminal? If you are wondering about the other two kids she raised, one went into the Army and know lives in Maryland. She is 27 making over $70,000 a year and her brother is now in a wheelchair due to a swimming accident. He is living very well from his accident if you know what I mean.

QualityControl
May 7, 2008 | 9:08 AM

If you have good parents you don't kill people!!! it is that simple!!!!

K13071 read my blog
May 7, 2008 | 5:22 PM

I had wrote a comment about it starting at home earlier, I do agree with that. You are right, they had a choice..Hmmm let me see,should I go rob a store and kill someone or should I get a job? Well.....unfortunately I guess its easier to kill someone for money instead of working.What a sad world we live in. I also know that there have probably been good parents that have raised lowlifes and thats sad..but mostly it is how children are raised. I have a 20 yr old and a 10 yr old and I hope to god that they have learned right and wrong from me.

yoyom read my blog
May 7, 2008 | 6:40 PM

Well, that's all I am saying. Each person born into this world is born with a mind of their own. I have seen too many times when parents break their backs to provide the best life for their kids and they turn out to be bums. Don't judge me as a bad parent because my grown children decided to take the wrong path.

K13071 read my blog
May 7, 2008 | 6:51 PM

Yes I agree we all have minds of our own but how we are guided is a huge part! First, I am not judging but most of the time when you look into the past of a "criminal" take a look at their background,seriously. There are families that raise their children with good morals and they still turn out messed up. Our society has made it so that we cannot repremand our children the way they need to be or social services will come after us. When I was younger, I am 37, there was nothing wrong with getting a smack when I was fresh or out of line, kids knew how to behave. Todays generation is out of control, the big people have lost control!

K13071 read my blog
May 7, 2008 | 6:56 PM

We all need to remember that when and what we post on here is our personal opinion. I will state again that I do not JUDGE people, I only state the way I feel. I always put myself into someone elses shoes. All I know is that this is not an easy life or an easy world for any of us to live in. I do not want to offend anyone on here in these blogs. We do not personally know each other, but we all need to respect each others opinions : )

yoyom read my blog
May 7, 2008 | 7:25 PM

Some people that commit a crime my have had it harder than the next but at the same time that can make them stronger to do the right thing. Look at some of the people that have killed other people that had a good life. Look at the Peterson murder. I can't recall right now their names but I think the man was a lawyer and he killed the young girl he was involved with and dumped her body in a cooler in the middle of the ocean. That's the problem with some parents now. I never was afraid to discipline my kids just because the law said I couldn't do it. I did whatever it took to make sure my kids understood I was not putting up with hard heads. I was all prepared to look a judge in their face and tell them that if I had too. They way I raise my kids worked. I barely had to touch them. I truly think another big problem is too many babies are having babies. How can someone who can barely read raise a child? As I said before, my mother raised five children by herself. I had caught her plenty of nights crying because of my brothers. She also thought she did a bad job raising us. Two bad seeds out of five is not bad. My brother choices are theirs. We were all treated the same.

toizd
May 8, 2008 | 8:44 AM

I agree with most of what everyone has written so far. I'm 4o yrs old and I can't believe I'm going to say it, but, these kids today!! The overwhelming majority of them have no respect for anyone or anything. There are good kids but they are the unusual story today. when i was a kid it was the "bad kids" who were unusual.
That being said, You don't have to be a parent to know right from wrong. To know that "not my child" is usually exactly who the authorities are looking for. Most of the parents around me will tell you what great kids they have. But listen to their phone conversations and other conversations about the lastest serious problem "not my child" is involved in. Parents are usually the the worst judges of their kids , probably because they feel its a reflection on them.
And to the news media...Stop putting up the mothers of these THUGS saying what good boys these animals are. "he graduated from high school" whoopee! "he worked since he was 14" What a swell guy! He just shot or was running with guys who just shot 3 other human beings! Your child is not a "good boy".
The police were wrong for the beating it was way beyond what was required to subdue them. But lets not forget what these "good boys" were being chased for.

marlene1988 read my blog
May 8, 2008 | 9:06 AM

YOU ARE SO,SO, RIGHT. MY SON WAS MURDERED FEB 15,2007. AND I COULD NOT BELIVE WHEN I WENT TO COURT THE LOOK ON THAT MUREDER'S MOTHER'S FACE LIKE SHE WAS SO HEART BROKEN ABOUT HER SON.BUT YET AND STILL HER SON LIVE'S BREATHES AND SITTING UP IN JAIL STILL BEING CARED FOR THREE MEAL'S A DAY AND A COT . HE IS NOT EVEN WORTHY OF THAT. AND HAVE A NERVE TO BEABLE TO BE IN PROTECTIVE CUSTDY. PLEASE!! WHO PROTECTED MY CHILD !! FROM HIM !! THESE MOTHERS NEED TO BE IN PRISON RIGHT WITH THEIR SORRY BEHIND WORTHLESS KID'S. AND TRUST EVERY PARENT KNOW'S THEIR CHILDREN. I SURELY KNEW ALL OF MINE!!

THEN THEIR THE FIRST ONE'S THAT WANT TO SAY THEY HAD A GOOD CHILD !! ( BULL )AND WHEN THE COP'S BEAT THEIR SORRY BUTTS IT'S ONLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PARENT SHOULD HAVE DONE LONG TIME AGO !!!!

toizd
May 8, 2008 | 9:12 AM

AMEN

stylegal read my blog
May 8, 2008 | 9:57 AM

marlene1988 you are so right.
If you had a child that killed someone, to open your mouth and say "my son was a good boy", should not even come out of your mouth.

A good boy does not walk with friends that are criminals
A good boy does not carry an unlicensed gun
A good boy does not sell drugs
A good boy does not steal other's money or belongings, as that person that was robbed worked long hours
A good boy does not carry a gun to commit a crime
A good boy not assault someone
A good boy does not steal a car
A good boy does not shoot someone
A good boy does not rape someone
A good boy does not kill someone

If you son has done any of the above, he is not and was not a good boy

skyebird
May 8, 2008 | 12:06 PM

Stylegal, I do admit that it is amazing how people call their children or anyone good when they run around doing things that are not good. However I have six children and out of the six two of them have been locked up. Not for murder or rape or for hurting another person but for doing some not so good deeds. So, I always wonder to myself...how is it that four of them are on the right road and two of them are not? They where raised under the same roof had the same rules got their behinds tore up the same and were punished the same.
After several years I figured out the answer...they were not the same. What worked for one did not neccesarily work for the other.

Also, I hear a lot of parents saying my kid is good I give them everything. To me that is part of the problem. If you give them everything when they get to that age when those sneakers don't cost $35 but instead $135 they feel like they are supposed to have them anyway so they sell drugs because mom and dad say no get a job. We have to go back to a time when you got because you earned it not because someone just gave it to you.

reemiss
May 8, 2008 | 2:02 PM

I have to strongly disagree, parents can't and should not be blamed for the things there adult children do. Especially when it comes to crime. Can we say that parents are to blame when we send our children to school or to college and they get hooked on drugs? hmmm...

sunshine0620 read my blog
May 8, 2008 | 2:41 PM

First of all, I guess we can say that YOUR parents didn't do such a good job raising you or didn't teach you any morals or good values. But (you) decided to make these a hole comments. Because, for someone to make such comments is atrocious. Have you ever heard of free will and common sense? Those people who (actually) committed the crimes you spoke of had choices to do whatever they wanted to do. They made the decisions and are responsibile for their own actions. So what kind of moral less, value less, disrespectful life are you living?! I hope you never have kids because, if you think like this you will teach your kids the wrong way to think. MUMIA DID NOT KILL Officer Faulkner!!!

toizd
May 9, 2008 | 9:25 AM

wow...its responses like yours sunshine that makes me wish there were MORE police beatings. Moralless, valueless, disrespectful? You are all three.

Yes people make choices but how people are brought up has a huge impact on the choices they make.

And yes, you can blame parents for at least being partly responsible for their children's behavior, adult or child. most adult behavior issues are rooted in childhood experience...look it up, I'll wait. i know what i speak of, as a recovering alcoholic, i made the choice to do the things i did, but what made me want to do those things in the first place? maybe my dysfunctional upbringing? maybe my parents,who spent more time fighting with each other than worrying about what it was doing to their children? Maybe generations of dysfunction? We are all a product of our upbringing, good or bad or both. One of the biggest problems in this country is that you can't call anyone on their BS. You can't offend anyone by telling the truth. You can't expect people to take responsibility for ANYTHING anymore

flyerspac read my blog view my photos
May 9, 2008 | 3:08 PM

I worked in the juvenile justice field. I have seen first hand the parents that come in there to pick up their children. These children would be sentenced for a crime, we would take care of them, teach them respect and basically care about them. Their grades would go up, they would do great, then they would go for a home pass....I know first hand some parents are to blame. However I have also seen some that have wonderful parents, these children though however usually have friends that lead them down the wrong path. I am a parent. I spend every moment possible with my children. We eat together as a family, I watch tv with them and monitor what they do on the computer. My children are taught to respect authority and adults. They are punished if the do wrong. I take them to church and I give them the love they deserve. This whole country has lost its family values, we need to fight to bring them back. If not our children's children are going to be living in one sad world! I watched the funeral today, I was in tears, I feel for that poor family, I pray for all police officers I have nothing but respect for you all!!

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