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And that pretty much sums it all up.  I am glad to see someone taking a stand against Burke.  Burke is a power hungry little man who wields the Catholic faith like a club.  How come he did not, and the church, use the club to go after priests and their wrong doing?  (And anyone who follows the news knows what I am talking about) Oh wait, I got an idea as to why...  the church is infallible and can do no wrong.  Therefore the priests, a part of the church, did no wrong!  This makes so much more sense to me know!!  I have finally figured it all out. 

Seriously, Burke, and the church, need to get their heads straight and get with the program.  I honestly believe the church needs to clean house and straighten some of their dogma before they go after members of the congregation and a priest for taking a stand.
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mrmgrady read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2008 | 3:55 PM

I agree with Burke, but I don't agree on his tactics (or lack thereof).

The Roman Catholic Church is not a Democracy in any sense of the word.

The pastor of St. Stan is clearly in the wrong on many issues (women clergy, married priests and offering Communion to non-Catholics). He cannot force his beliefs into the Church!

dannbetty read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2008 | 9:56 PM

It would be interesting, and probably even comical to hear just what you think you might know about Catholic Dogma.

negelas read my blog
Mar 12, 2008 | 10:18 PM

Sounds like you are the fool squirrel. AB Burke is only adhering to the faith. Like most bigots, you believe only what you think is important. My guess is you are probably some agnostic who wants to weigh in on something you have no right to weigh in on. Go down to the nearest synagogue and tell them you diagree with circumcision. Let's see what happens next.

squirrelboy read my blog view my photos
Mar 13, 2008 | 7:11 AM

Thank you negelas, I have never been called a bigot. I feel honored in a weird sort of way. And you guessed incorrectly about my faith. If you read of my previous blogs, you would know where I stand with my faith.

But to be fair, dannbetty, I was raised Catholic and went through the whole religion class ritual all the way up to confirmation. So I remember a lot about my Catholic dogma.

And mrmgrady, these are the reasons why the Catholic church is loosing members: no women clergy, not married priests and npt offering Communion to non-Catholics. Not to mention there are other reasons why people do not go to church. If they would seriously look at their antiquated beliefs and update a little, I believe more people would attend the church.

blogsiren read my blog view my photos
Mar 13, 2008 | 11:11 AM

Hey squirrelboy, I see your getting accused of the same things as me, bigotry and lack of knowledge.
I come from a Catholic background. Big family, lots of kneeling. Whole lota guilt.
I guess you cannot blame those that continue to not question the motives of the leaders of this religion, Heck, it hasn't been so long ago they weren't even allowed to read the bible. They had to read what was ordained appropriate by the church and therefore were not given the opportunity to form an opinion, other than that of the church. Leading the lambs, so to speak.
I am sticking with the theory that Burke has to do this to earn his badges, so he can move forward in the hierarchy. Rigali pretty much dumped this in his lap. And wasn't Rigali looking for a big position when he ran out of here. If memory serves me, he didn't get it. Perhaps his lack of performance concerning the St. Stanislous church tainted his resume.
Once again, I am not faulting those that have faith. This is about the "Men" that run this church. There aren't any women allowed, except the poor charitable sister's, and I am afraid they are becoming extinct.

mrmgrady read my blog view my photos
Mar 13, 2008 | 2:22 PM

Squirelboy,

The church is falling apart not because there is no women clergy, married priests and the Communion issue, it is because the church is trying to modernize itself by mimicking soceity's ideas of "equality."

For example; most religious orders are losing membership by death of their aging conferes. No one wants to become a nun or monk. Some more strict orders are seeing a resurgence of membership in their orders (eg, Poor Clares in Alabama, Franciscan Sisters of the Martyr St. George in Alton, IL, etc). Religous orders in Africa and Asia are growing exponentially with the flourishing of the Faith in those contenents as well. The "western" Catholic churches in the US and Europe are closing while the churches in Africa and Asia cannot be built fast enough for the people! Soon, missionaries from Africa and Asia will be coming to the US and Europe to minister to us because we will have no US or Eurpean priest or religious to minister us!

blogsiren read my blog view my photos
Mar 13, 2008 | 2:51 PM

Ministries are growing in Africa, true. But the impoverished, undereducated people of these nations don't know anything about the church/church's that are helping them. They are grateful for any and all help. I am sure you will see these people come to our country. Wouldn't you? But the information that they are receiving isn't necessarily giving them the option to have a choice. They have no idea of what is going on beyond trying to survive a hostile environment and disease.
I believe the church is falling apart because the people they are trying to reach have had an opportunity to search out the truth, and it isn't exactly the way it has been portrayed to them through church doctrine. If people want to belong to a church, knowing full well that women are not treated equally, that all of God's children are not welcome and that the rules are up to their discretion, then so be it.
There are also people that have witnessed how some of these churches perform under less than stellar circumstances, and perhaps through that information, the loss of members is deliberate

squirrelboy read my blog view my photos
Mar 13, 2008 | 5:38 PM

blogsiren, I am used to being slammed on the faith blogs. I make it my mission to stand my ground when I post up what I believe to be true.

But what I have found funny is that it is the fanatics who attack the most. And they really do not have anything to back up what they have to say except for words such as bigot. Hmmm... I wonder what Jesus would say about the hate those people spew.

And mrmgrady, the reason those other countries are going into the faith so fast, to escape poverty. Did you notice a majority of the countries you listed are 3rd world countries? If given a chance between starving to death or Church for life, they are choosing Church.

I still say, and will maintain, the Catholic church is very antiquated in its ways and need to really consider moving forward.

dannbetty read my blog view my photos
Mar 13, 2008 | 6:21 PM

Blog siren
BLATANT LIE= about Catholics not being allowed to read the Bible.
Misinformed=AB Rigali is now Cardinal Rigali of Philadelphia he was re-assigned as bishops and priests are fromm time to time. That way they can all laugh at you.
Haven't heard you mention anything about dogma; cat got your tongue? I really need the laugh too.
Antiquated, not changed its teachings in 2000 years, some would call that consistent. You will no doubt mistake doctrine for discipline but heck you only have an 8th grade religious education.
I have enough to do attacking your misrepresentations without attacking you. I don't care if you are a bigot.

squirrelboy read my blog view my photos
Mar 13, 2008 | 6:45 PM

dannbetty, I am touched, again, to be called a bigot. And you sir, have no idea about my religious education. I will kindly review what I have studied: Catholic for 18 years, took world religions in college, took philosophy 1 & 2 in college and also took a college course in the old religion.

Yep, I am one uneducated bigot when it comes to religion. And yes, it is true about Catholics were not able to read the bible. I almost got beat by a nun, once, when asking if we would be reading the bible. Learned my lesson that day.

inriislord read my blog
Mar 14, 2008 | 2:53 PM

squirelboy you being a non-christian have absolutely no credence in anything you say about anything or anyone in christianity.
you have an opinion true, but who cares what you say about anything refering to God's family, which all Christians are a part of, so until you heed the call of Christ, stick some nuts in your cheeks and be still and know that Jesus Christ is Lord. and if He has a problem with archbishop burke, He alone will handle it,

squirrelboy read my blog view my photos
Mar 14, 2008 | 6:44 PM

inriislord just proved a point I have been making on here. If you are not a Christian, you have no opinion. You cannot speak up and say what you want. That is what I get from just about every Christian.

dannbetty read my blog view my photos
Mar 17, 2008 | 2:31 PM

You can say what you want and that Nun might well have had a good reason to discipline you. That doesn't make your blanket statement about reading the Bible true.
Are you truly a squirrel, or just a boy?
Just a way to show you how things might be misinterpreted. I never said you were or are a bigot, but if you are, I don't care.
Still waiting to see if you have a clue about actual Catholic dogma.

squirrelboy read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 11:37 AM

dannbetty, I have misunderstood your bigot statement and for that I apologize. And trust me, I can work on a few points of Catholic dogma.

1) The Church and the pope are endowed by God with the privilege of infallibility in discharge of the duty of universal teaching of faith and morals.
2) God's Nature is incomprehensible to men.
3) God is absolutely perfect.
4) There is only one God.
5) The world was created for the glorification of God.
6) Jesus Christ is true God and true Son of God.
7) The God-man Jesus Christ is a high priest.
8) Mary is truly the Mother of God.
9) There are seven Sacraments and they are: baptism, confirmation, confession, holy communion, matrimony, holy orders and anointing of the sick.

Is that pretty good as for as dogma knowledge?

dannbetty read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 6:51 PM

And you disagree with (?) what?

squirrelboy read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 9:53 PM

dannbetty, that is just a small sampling of Catholic dogma. And the main one I disagree with what I posted: The church and pope are infallible. Uh, no, not at all. I am sorry but you cannot give a man or a group of men that much leave way at all. Look at the church scandal and what Burke is doing.

People looked the other way when priests started preying on young children because the church was infallible and could no wrong. Sorry, wrong answer. You need to listen to your kids and investigate a little further. There is no way you can accept anyone on blind faith. And if you say it was just a few bad apples I would say research that issue a little further.

dannbetty read my blog view my photos
Mar 19, 2008 | 11:29 AM

Notice where it says 'in teaching faith and morals',
Nothing there says they 'mysticly know' how to deal with a poorly, and liberally trained, preisthood. There was a school of thought at one time these people could be changed and 'cured', all of society hid their uncles and pedophilic sickos in the closet with their old maid lesbian aunties. As more was learned about the behavior patterns of pedophiles, attitudes and reactions changed. We learned that pedophiles were drawn to the preisthood as well as other youth groups, day care, because of the sick desire for children. What happened in the Church is no different than what happened across society, except in the Church, there was no place to hide, because the priest fell under the control of the Bishop. Therefore he could not 'cut and run' like the Baptist youth leaders and Boy Scout Leaders and the Youth leaders in any other denomination. You didn't hear the follow-ups on them because they skipped out, changed their name and started a 'new church' as protestants are so prone to do. The numbers are the same across the board, it is not so much a Catholic problem as it is a cultural problem. Yes priests are guilty and yes Bishops behaved poorly and in cases sinfully. Are they the Church? They were supposed to represent the Church. I say they failed. No different than Mr. Clinton failed to represent the US when he lied 'I did not have sexual relations with that woman.' Does his lie make the US a nation of liars and perverts, or just a nation of people.
The Pope or the Church does not and has taught or condoned pedophilia

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