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I found this on yahoo. Its from the AP. It is mainstream. It is a good story. I'm sure it will be laughed at by the republicans even though it is true. I just thought it was interesting. I hate the attack ads and I am getting realy tired of them. I saw a person this week in my neighborhood thats been a lifetime republican put an Obama sticker on his F-150. Thats something we smiled about resently.

By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer Fri Sep 12, 12:43 PM ET

WASHINGTON - The "Straight Talk Express" has detoured into doublespeak.

Republican presidential nominee John McCain, a self-proclaimed tell-it-like-it-is maverick, keeps saying his running mate, Sarah Palin, killed the federally funded Bridge to Nowhere when, in fact, she pulled her support only after the project became a political embarrassment. He said Friday that Palin never asked for money for lawmakers' pet projects as Alaska governor, even though she has sought nearly $200 million in earmarks this year. He says Obama would raise nearly everyone's taxes, when independent groups say 80 percent of families would get tax cuts instead.

Even in a political culture accustomed to truth-stretching, McCain's skirting of facts has stood out this week. It has infuriated and flustered Obama's campaign, and campaign pros are watching to see how much voters disregard news reports noting factual holes in the claims.

McCain's persistence in pushing dubious claims is all the more notable because many political insiders consider him one of the greatest living victims of underhanded campaigning. Locked in a tight race with George W. Bush for the Republican presidential nomination in 2000, McCain was rocked in South Carolina by a whisper campaign claiming he had fathered an illegitimate black child and was mentally unstable.

Shaken by the experience, McCain denounced less-than-truthful campaigning. Vowing to live up to his "straight talk" motto, he apologized for his reluctance to criticize the flying of the Confederate flag at South Carolina's state Capitol in a bid for votes. When the so-called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth attacked the military record of Democrat and fellow Navy officer John Kerry in 2004, McCain called the ads "dishonest and dishonorable."

Now, top aides to McCain include Steve Schmidt, who has close ties to Karl Rove, Bush's premier political adviser in 2000.

Politicians usually modify or drop claims when a string of newspaper and TV news accounts concludes they are untrue or greatly exaggerated. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, for example, conceded she had not come under sniper fire in Bosnia after a batch of debunking articles subjected her to scorn during her primary contest against Obama.

But McCain and his running mate Palin, the Alaska governor, were defiant this week in the face of similar reports. Day after day she said she had told Congress "no thanks" to the so-called Bridge to Nowhere, a rural Alaska project that was abandoned when critics challenged its costs and usefulness. For nearly a week, major news outlets had documented that Palin supported the bridge when running for governor in 2006, noting that she turned against it only after it became an object of ridicule in Alaska and a symbol of Congress's out-of-control earmarking.

The McCain-Palin campaign made at least three other aggressive claims this week that omitted key details or made dubious assumptions to criticize Obama. It equated lawmakers' requests for money for special projects with corruption, even though Palin has sought millions of dollars in such "earmarks" this year.

It produced an Internet ad implying that Obama had called Palin a pig when he used a familiar phrase, which McCain also has used, about putting "lipstick on a pig" to try to make a bad situation look better. McCain supporters said Obama was slyly alluding to Palin's description of herself as a pit bull in lipstick, but there was nothing in his remarks to support the claim. Obama accused the GOP campaign of "lies and phony outrage."

The lipstick wars were fully engaged when the McCain campaign produced another ad saying Obama favored "comprehensive sex education" for kindergartners. The charge triggered the sort of headlines becoming increasingly common in major newspapers and wire services monitoring the factual content of political ads and speeches.

"Ad on Sex Education Distorts Obama Policy," was the headline on a New York Times article Thursday. "McCain's 'Education' Spot is Dishonest, Deceptive," The Washington Post's "Fact Checker" article said.

Major news outlets have written such fact-checking articles for years. "But in the last two election cycles, the very notion that the facts matter seems to be under assault," said Michael X. Delli Carpini, an authority on political ads at the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg School for Communication. "Candidates and their consultants seem to have learned that as long as you don't back down from your charges or claims, they will stick in the minds of voters regardless of their accuracy or at a minimum, what the truth is will remain murky, a matter of opinion rather than fact."

With Palin giving McCain's campaign a boost in the polls, Obama supporters are nervously watching to see what impact the latest claims will have. Surveys already show that most people believe Obama would raise their taxes — a regular McCain claim — even though independent groups such as the Tax Policy Center concluded that four out of five U.S. households would receive tax cuts under his proposals.

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds defended the campaign's statements. "We include factual backup in every one of our TV spots," he said Thursday.

Obama, of course, has made exaggerated or questionable assertions as well. Earlier this year, for instance, he repeated a claim that more black men are in prison than in college, after news accounts refuted it. He also used a McCain remark about having troops in Iraq for "100 years" to exaggerate McCain's proposals for being fully engaged militarily in that country.

In general, however, Obama has been quicker to react to news accounts challenging his accuracy. Faced with skeptical reports this year, for instance, he stopped saying he "worked his way" through college, and instead credited hard work and scholarships.

Dan Schnur, a former McCain aide who now teaches politics at the University of Southern California, said McCain and Obama learned they must stretch the truth "when staying on the high road didn't work out to their benefit."

McCain, he said, "tried it his way. He had a poverty tour and nobody covered it. He had a national service tour, and everybody made fun of it. He proposed these joint town halls" with Obama, "and nothing come of it. Through the spring and early summer, that approach didn't work. You can't blame him for taking a step back and reassessing."

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EDITOR'S NOTE — Charles Babington covers national politics for The Associated Press.

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Abunai read my blog view my photos
Sep 13, 2008 | 9:48 AM

LOL! So because it says straight talk, you think the AP is telling you the truth? LOL!

FACT is that Palin made a good decission and modified her position. You wont see that from anyone on the left (though they will talk about it)

She actually received a SEPERATE grant of money for the state that equated to the same amount of money, and did it in a manner that Alaska got to decided what projects to fund and do! The earmark itself never made it out of Washington.

But now for balance, maybe your next post will show us the money Obama has lobbied for, or the federal money that he and the law firm worked for to fund his buddies for?

davidpatrick344 read my blog view my photos
Sep 13, 2008 | 12:54 PM

what about bidens son and bidens bill

Abunai read my blog view my photos
Sep 13, 2008 | 2:51 PM

LOL! Of course all these balanced liberals in here while they demand truth and honesty, are just ALL into Joe Biden and his son's work with a hedge fund, and all his lobbiest efforts!.........NOT!

candyaquino read my blog view my photos
Sep 13, 2008 | 5:37 PM

Sorry Plum...that's a great screen name because you are so young and innocent....hopefully you will LEARN with age..that the democraps don't always TELL THE TRUTH.....that at the end you will feel like you have been betrayed by much of the same people YOU THINK WILL make a difference..specially some idiot whose neither white or black but yet if I were an Afro American I'd be offended by his CONSTANT REMINDER THAT HE IS THE "FIRST AFRO BLAH BLAH" WHEN IN FACT....HE AINT.......IT WAS JESSE JACKSON......yep.....plum..one day you will wake up lets say another 25 years or so...AND the fruit will be ripened.........good luck.....hope you totally don't lose sight of what's truth and what's real.........shame the dems still use the same tactics to attract our youth AS BAIT.....but you will see...nothing will happen....OH WAIT THEY WILL ALWAYS BLAME A REPUBLICAN.......the good thing to know IS WHILE YOU ARE WITH THE REPUBLICANS YOU WONT EVER BE WORST OFF THAN WE ARE NOW.........

candyaquino read my blog view my photos
Sep 13, 2008 | 5:38 PM

john kerry........now that's a JOKE

plum19 read my blog view my photos
Sep 13, 2008 | 5:48 PM

see, i knew the republicans would laugh at the truth. They always seem tho think their stuff dont stink. Bush is a god, Clinton is the devil...thats all they see. Thank god America is too smart to go through the Karl Rove tricks again.

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Sep 13, 2008 | 7:09 PM

Joe Biden is a bigger JOKE. He will be the millstone around Obama's neck.

What a sorry pick THAT was! LOL!

shadows read my blog
Sep 13, 2008 | 7:13 PM

A very good blog....however, most partisans rarely get beyond the one line talking points.

Rather than talk about the issues, a partisan confronted with the truth or facts panics like a wild animal and seeks to kill the messenger or source rather than dealing with those individual issues or truths.

It's too bad that such ignorance has come to dominate our society.

candyaquino read my blog view my photos
Sep 13, 2008 | 11:58 PM

COUGH COUGH ...UUMMM Plum I AM A DEMOCRAT......OR SHOULD I DEEM MYSELF A DEMOCRAP.....I HAVE WITNESSED TOO MANY WRONGDOER........so your assumption is a tad bit off.....and see what I mean You are young..and no doubt very smart..but you are not focusing on what anyone else is saying YOU SEE AND HEAR...THE OBAMINATION "MUCH OF THE SAME ..BUSH/McCAIN..BUT YOU FAILED TO SEE THROUGH THE FABRICATED STORIES.....THEY ARE NOT THE SAME..IN FACT....if you research WHO DO YOU THINK FANNIE MAE AND FREDIE MACK OR WHATEVER THAT OTHER BLEEP COMPANY...THEY ARE RUN MY DEMOCRAPS....THEY ARE NOW GETTING BAIL MONEY....WHY? BECAUSE IT BENEFITS THEM..NOT YOU.....NOR I...WE ARE JUST THEIR PEONS...THAT THEY DECEIT IN BELIEVING THEY ARE THE BEST BECAUSE..........THEY FEED INTO THE WELFARE RECIPIENTS TO GET GOVERNMENT FUNDS..MOST PEOPLE IN THOSE MORTGAGES ARE LOW INCOME (WHICH DON'T FORGET THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THEY WANT TO CONTROL..HOWEVER, IF YOU TOOK A GOOD LOOK....THEY THE DEMOCRAPS HURT ECONOMY.......THEY GET ALL THESE GOVERNMENT FUNDINGS FOR ALL THE WRONG PEOPLE..AND HARD WORKING PEOPLE GET CRAP-O-LA.....AND YES AS A DEM YOU WANT TO BELIEVE YOUR PARTY..BUT I KNOW YOU WILL FIGURE IT OUT..THAT IS NOT ABOUT THE "PARTY" IS ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL......AND THIS BAIL OUT....IS GOOD FOR THE "BIG FAT RAT DEMOCRAPS..RUNNING THE SHOWS..NOT YOU AND ME..AND PUTTING AMERICA IN A DEFICIT....LOOK AROUND ORLANDO.....I AM FINDING OUT THE REASON ORLANDO IS GOING TO "POTS" IS BECAUSE THE MAJORITY IN OFFICE ARE DEMOCRAPS.....LETS COME TOGETHER AND FIGHT THE SYSTEM....YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO

candyaquino read my blog view my photos
Sep 14, 2008 | 12:01 AM

THINK AND BELIEVE YOUR PARTY......BECAUSE ONE DAY.......JUST LIKE I DID......YOU WILL WAKE UP.....AND REALIZE THE PRECIOUS TIME YOU SPENT ON THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE STICKING IT TO YOU........OH YEAH THEY ARE SO SUAVE.....YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE IT COMING....AND I TOOK OBAMA "PIG" STATEMENT JUST AS HE MEANT IT........A PIG WITH A LIPSTICK......CAUSE HE'S A DIPSTICK.......AND REMEMBEER...........HE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A "PUPPET"....WHO WILL GO BESERK AND DESTROY US SOME MORE........

northton read my blog view my photos
Sep 14, 2008 | 12:27 PM

Right on Shad.

ZipItHippy read my blog view my photos
Sep 14, 2008 | 6:26 PM

Norty I am begining to think your quite the little cheerleader.

TM6068 read my blog
Sep 14, 2008 | 6:46 PM

ignorance? You mean like cutting and pasting someone else's words, that are obviously liberal in nature, and then the rest of the dem libs abide by these? You mean that kind of "Wild animal ignorance?"
Oh wait, I forgot...the dems are the ones that want to help the "down-and-out," the illegals, and all the other "easy to fool," folks..so they can earn their loyalty and their vote....by merely bs'ing them. I forgot that the dems are the ones that make continual and concerted efforts toward earning the vote of the "Working man." Hmmm..why is that? Maybe because the working man thinks? Likes his money? Doesn't walk with a sense of entitlement?

You libs really love to CNP, and then put a spin.."yah....!! Right on Shad!" haha...

Zip - you called that one correct.

mscsailor read my blog
Sep 14, 2008 | 7:33 PM

This one is close to the record for the longest CnP.

DaytonaFrank read my blog view my photos
Sep 14, 2008 | 11:14 PM

Funny how shadow contributed nothing but another nonsense comment.

Way to go! Talking points!

You are of course innocent of that! LOL!

candyaquino read my blog view my photos
Sep 15, 2008 | 5:58 PM

I LIKE IT TM........that's exactly what the dems are good for.....GETTING THE UNDIVIDED ATTENTION OF THE ILLEGALS, FOOL THE SPANISH PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING THEY WILL OWN, HAVE AND WORK........AT THE SAME PAY RATE AS WASHINGTON..NOT TO MENTION......WE WILL BE COVER (MEDICAL COVERAGE) THAT IS....LIKE THE PEOPLE IN CONGRESS......WHAT A CROCK OF #$%^

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I was Born in Burlington Iowa in Feb of 1986. I moved to Florida in 1992 and have been in the same town sence. I graduated from Pine Ridge High School in 2004. In High School, I found two passions. I fell in love with TV. Not, just the TV, but the idea to be on and make TV. I want to be a director. I go to the University of Central Florida. My other love that I came across at Pine Ridge High School is my future wife, Elizabeth. She is the sun in my day and the moon in my night. She is my best friend and the only woman on Earth that I ever want to be with. I grew up a NASCAR fan and it started two months after I was born when future NASCAR star Ernie Irvan was holding me at a local dirt track. The drivers I follow now are Jeremy Mayfield, Denny Hamlin, David Ragan, Jeff Burton, Tony Stewart, Casey Mears, Scott Riggs, Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Bobby Labonte, Clint Bowyer, Kurt Busch, Juan Pablo Montoya, Dave Blaney, Jamie McMurry, Scott Wimmer, Reed Sorenson, and A.J Allmindinger. I Think Dale Earnhardt Jr. is over rated. And I know Jeff Gordon isn't a fan friendly driver. My heros are Richard Petty, Ryan Cooper (The firefighter who ran into the Sanford houses in 2007) and Fireball Roberts. I also fell into the typical sports like football and baseball. I root for the Tampa Bay Bucs for the NFL season and for MLB I follow the Boston Red Sox. I Currently work at Lowe's in Orange City and love my job there as a Outside power equipment Associate. I'm treated well and the job is nice and relaxing. I plan on getting married really soon to Elizabeth. We set a date for March 6th 2010!!!!!

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