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OK  here is the scenario-

 

I am an HR Manager and part of my job is filling positions.  I reach out to applicants who apply and schedule interviews.  I have found that when I do talk with candidates they are clueless about positions they have applied for and want you to discuss with them the job and pay and basically tell them what was in the ad. 

 

What are your thoughts on this?  If you are applying for a position, would you not know what you are applying for?  Keep records of what you are applying for?

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mr_wildflower read my blog view my photos
Aug 21, 2008 | 2:46 PM

Do you mean that Sanitation Engineer job wasn't a 9 to 5 office job with my own cubicle and 401 k........lol

julybabe read my blog view my photos
Aug 21, 2008 | 4:14 PM

will I have my own office making 70ks a year and 6 weeks off for paid vacation???? The add did say receptionist right?

kurkel read my blog view my photos
Aug 21, 2008 | 8:46 PM

Ok Mr HR manager...you may be someone I want to ask a question to. I have been a nurse at my hospital for 21 yrs. I have alot of good things to put in my resume as I am thinking of changing jobs maybe even hospitals maybe even what I do...so to speak.

I work in an ICU and may go to equipment/education/sales with one of our companies we deal with....

I have not done a resume in a very long time if ever! ( I really dont remember ever doing one!)....what and where would be the best place to start???? ANY help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.....

kurkel read my blog view my photos
Aug 21, 2008 | 8:47 PM

OR is that really just a scenerio and you are NOT an HR manager...lol

baicas read my blog
Aug 22, 2008 | 12:07 AM

At one time I had sent out so many resumes I couldn't remember who or where I sent them, in this economy I bet that is what is going on now. So give a person a break, you may have been #535 resume that person had sent out.

g8wayrebel read my blog view my photos
Aug 22, 2008 | 8:10 AM

Consider this:
Picture your average joe (someone you know personally).
Got them in your mind?
Think about who they are and represent.
Intelligence , personality ,convictions ??
Just who is this person?

Ok , now define average.
Half the rest of people are lesser than that.
Yes , they are clueless!

I have dealt with a few H.R. officials in my time
When applying for many many jobs , I have asked about benefits and run into a blank stare and this common response.
Well , I'll have to check on it , no one ever asks. All they want to know is how much it pays.

AnswerMan read my blog
Aug 22, 2008 | 8:47 AM

Not to sound rude but if you are an HR Manager then it's your job to screen these applicants via a telephone interview.

This will save you a lot of time and frustration. Through the phone interview you can stage questions relevant to the posted position and rule out many applicants.

When you do the team interview (2 of you and one of them) in person then you should have a more defined knowledge of his/her abilities.

So, do your phone screening first and see if they know what the job entails then interview the 6 remaining people that really are qualified.

dwheeler6201 read my blog view my photos
Aug 22, 2008 | 9:27 AM

I know of people that are looking for work and they find an ad that they THINK they may be qualified for simply because of the wording or the placement of the ad. When they contact the company is when they are really trying to find what the postion actually is.

I myself have done this. Receptionist can mean anything from simply answering a 4 line phone,to handling a 20 line system, to being an administrative assistant. When I was looking for a job, I appreciated the ads that clearly stated what the position entailed and qualifications needed. This helped me know what to apply for and also if I needed to tweak my resume.

dannbetty read my blog view my photos
Aug 22, 2008 | 10:20 AM

Employers expect you to know everything and be willing to it it all for next to nothing because you are so loyal you don't mind being the first to go in the down-sizing.
The interview should start with what the employer is looking for as far as duties to be performed, this can be done over the phone, but should be in writing. HR is just another term so you don't have to think about your resources as being people, I find it as offensive as words used to slander people of ethnic, race and disadvantaged stature, mental or physical.
We so worry about being PC and refer to employees a 'resources'. BS, they are people, if you can't treat them that way, you have no business in business.

kdubken read my blog view my photos
Aug 22, 2008 | 10:47 AM

This one is easy. It is a matter of point of interest. Your interest is to find the best for the job. The applicant's interest is finding the least unplesant activity for the greatest reward. He don't give a dam about your problem. To do your job the best it can be done YOU must care about ALL his problems.
Remember too that diamonds are usually covered with dirt.

kdubken read my blog view my photos
Aug 22, 2008 | 10:48 AM

Back to the basics as they say.

sarcasticdragon
Aug 22, 2008 | 12:06 PM

We placed an ad in the Post for a DISPATCHER but it appeared online in several different site as 4 other positions. Its been listed as MANAGER, ADMIN ASSISTANT, PROJECT MANAGER and even RECEPTIONIST.

We didnt run them on-line but somehow all these job search site got it and just gave it whatever title they wanted.

As a result all these people are applying for a job that we dont really have open. Maybe just looking in the paper instead of depending only on online job searching isnt really helping their situation at all. Maybe the old fashion way is better.

PSylvester20 read my blog
Aug 22, 2008 | 5:12 PM

When I was first out of school, I must have sent my resume to dozens of prospective employers. So sometimes it was hard to keep track of what those individual positions entailed. Even after I found a job, I was getting calls a year later, wondering if I was interested. So I understand how people may not always seem like they've done their homework.

SeniorCitizen view my photos
Aug 22, 2008 | 6:43 PM

I know my son had sent out many resumes that only required a high school education but he has a BS in business administration and yet he is never contacted - so I guess the HR managers are also clueless, or they just do look and read the resumes.
There are also a lot of jobs that require you to have 5 or 10 years experience - how are the new employees going to get this experience if no one will hire a "New employee".

Gal4Christ read my blog view my photos
Aug 22, 2008 | 7:44 PM

I have an Associate Degree in Business/Management and just graduated but it seems that is not enough to get a job. I have been searching and searching or maybe when they learn I have a disability they don't want to hire me. I worked hard to get that degree and also worked at the college as a work-study and workforce tells me I need more experience. I do all the correct resumes and try to show my skills and never get any phone calls and I even have a college president's reference.

Gal4Christ read my blog view my photos
Aug 22, 2008 | 7:45 PM

Senior Citizen you are so right with your post. Noone wants to hire without alot of experience and you can't get the experience without being hired.

Fritz08 read my blog view my photos
Aug 22, 2008 | 11:13 PM

I have been looking for job for a while now. I always keep records on the jobs that I send a resume. I clip the newspaper ad to the a copy of my resume and file it. If I get a call back I do research on the business before going to the interview. To answer your question I do try go into the interview with a leg up. I try to do everything I was taught. I'm not sure if you have noticed or not but when I go to an interview the interviewer always boast that they have gotten 75 resumes for one job. So, really the ball is the interviewer court. Have you noticed this as well? Is there any thing you could suggest for people to know to stand out when they are looking for a job that you look for besides knowing about the position?

memobo read my blog
Aug 23, 2008 | 11:39 AM

I'm an RN. That may say a lot to many people, HR personnel especially, but the truth is they aren't RN's and have no idea what that title can entail. My last interview with an HR rep. for the hospital with which I now work was a disaster. She had no idea the differences in RN's, the specialties, the certifications, etc... I went to the interview for an RN position but I was clueless as to what kind because they had never advertised what type of RN they wanted. The HR rep was clueless to the difference. I needed to find out if it was an ICU, ER, Surgical, Medical Oncology, PACU, Post-surgical, Orthopedic or Telemetry position they were interested in.
After verifying the type of position they were trying to fill then I needed to find out just what they felt that position entailed. Each hospital assigns different "duties" to a nurse, depending on their personal philosophy of how they want to deliver care.
I've also found that the HR rep. wants you to sign on the dotted line without ever revealing the companies promises/requirments to the employee. Flexible hours, mandatory overtime, benefits, holidays, etc....
kdubkin is right. The HR rep wants the best person, I personally want my job to fit into my lifestyle, which means flexible hours, good money and good benefits.

chopperjohn read my blog view my photos
Aug 24, 2008 | 6:59 AM

When I have had an interview not only did I know the job description in full, but was able to show in detail my resume with years of experience. The last thing I ask is "what it pays" until it is brought up from the interviewer.

I also feel it is up to the interviewer where and when the interview shall take place, by phone, in person or in a line up, it is up to the HR director no one else.

If they do not know the job applied for say "NEXT" maybe they might educate themselves before the next interview they have, or not!!

I always get a kick reading these blogs, as you read, the blogs seem to get further from the subject of the original question or comment. my opinion :)

Are you still looking for a candidate??? just curious.
CJ

becker read my blog
Aug 24, 2008 | 8:33 AM

kurkel, does this mean you're not moving with the hospital?????

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