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The rush to bail out our financial institutions has all the lustre of a smarmy used car salesman telling me I have to buy the car I'm looking at right now!  Another guy was just looking at it and went to get his money!  If another guy went to get his money, why is the salesman pressuring me to buy?  Our Senators and Congressmen think we're stupid!

To be certain...something had to be done.  But I don't think this was it.  When the first proposal failed the stock market actually bounced back.  The second proposal passed and the stock market went down.  What does that tell you?  They could have waited.  They could have taken their time and done only what needed to be done.  They didn't. It's business as usual in Washington, D.C. and one wonders if there will ever be such a thing as "change".

I would not have voted for a bailout package that had money in it for anything other than propping up financial institutions and it would be a loan not a gift from Uncle Sam.  I have yet to speak anybody who's even remotely encouraged by the deal.  Once again our elected officials have ignored the American People and the United States Constitution.  Instead they have opted to once again get over on the taxpayers. 

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Earwig read my blog
Oct 4, 2008 | 11:51 AM

This was nothing but a farce perpetrated by a bunch of flim flam artists. No accountability, millions more in pork dollars, and no guarantees. Representatives of the people? WHAT People? US? HA!!!!! Yes g-man they DO believe we are stupid, and it gets proven to be true every time they're re-elected. This "package" will do nothing but prop up this failing system of Government handouts until it collapses under it's own weight.

rasguy24 read my blog
Oct 4, 2008 | 6:52 PM

the thing is, even after the dems bill failed. The republican plan which, cost taxpayers nothing,
Insured losses made on the money not the whole debt. would be paid for, by the holder of the debt.

This bail - out requires the treasury to buy the bad debts, then any liquidating will also cost us money.

Republican plan would have required the debt holder to liquidate the asset.

This is classic partisanship, this was Democrat politics.

In time of crisis, what was best for Democrats, was more important then, what is right for America.

Good luck in your campaign, I can't give you my vote,(do to location) but you are welcome to use any of my words.

adoseoftruth read my blog view my photos
Oct 6, 2008 | 4:26 PM

Mr. Sebring: well stated.

Were I in Congress, based on what I currently know about it, I would not have voted for it either.

Katbird read my blog view my photos
Oct 7, 2008 | 10:14 AM

It was a showdown to cherish for critics of Wall Street's culture of enrichment. The grim-faced boss of the bankrupt bank Lehman Brothers was left squirming yesterday as a veteran Democrat roasted him over his multimillion-dollar pay.

"Your company is now bankrupt and our country is in a state of crisis," said the chairman of the House oversight committee, Henry Waxman,. "You get to keep $480m. I have a very basic question: Is that fair?"

The chairman of the committee held up a chart suggesting that Fuld's personal remuneration totaled $480m over eight years, including payouts of $91m in 2001 and $89m in 2005.

Fuld, of course, failed to answer the question.

adoseoftruth read my blog view my photos
Oct 7, 2008 | 2:31 PM

Ms. Katbird: it may not be "fair".......but, do you really want the government to get involved in matters of compensation??????

Should he go to jail.......for making too much money???????

Should he be forced to pay it all back to........say the government???????

I strongly doubt Mr. Paul would argue for that sort of government intervention.

Katbird read my blog view my photos
Oct 7, 2008 | 3:10 PM

Ron Paul wouldn't have went with the bailout to begin with.
The point is why are these companies going under when their employees are raking in outrageous amounts of money?
Why are we paying to save their butts when they have the money to save their own company?

adoseoftruth read my blog view my photos
Oct 7, 2008 | 4:01 PM

They are going under because like myself, they made a series of assumptions that turned out to be false, and had invested alot of money in investments that ended up not being worth much.

" @(#* has just hit the fan......."

The bubble was still expanding in 2005 and they had the cash to pay what they paid then, and in years prior.

garageman read my blog view my photos
Oct 7, 2008 | 4:34 PM

Although I'm not in the "Katbird" seat, from where I sit it's easy to see that whether Fuld's level of income was fair or not is irrelevent. What is relevent is that I would expect someone with that kind of income to have the contacts and the stroke to bail themselves out. Something the CEO of AIG apparently was willing to do with some partners and instead was forced to take government money and the oversight that goes with it. FOUR TIMES the money he thought he needed to do it on his own.

Katbird read my blog view my photos
Oct 7, 2008 | 8:35 PM

That's very interesting, Garageman.
Thanks for the info.
I agree, they should have had the ability to bail themselves out. Between financial investers and cutbacks I am sure they could have made it work.

Tecant read my blog view my photos
Oct 7, 2008 | 11:01 PM

In third world countries, government exists to protect the rich and their investments.

Evidently, not just in third world countries.

Buried in the back pages behind coverage of the $700 billion Wall Street bailout, was a $25 billion bailout (low-interest loans) for the Detroit automakers. Petty cash, really.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081
001/AUTO01/810010350

I'm still waiting for my representatives in Washington to pass a bailout for my Capital One VISA card.

PS

If you've been following the Wall Street bailout, you'll find some interesting reading at LewRockwell.com

Katbird read my blog view my photos
Oct 8, 2008 | 12:41 AM

WASHINGTON (AP) - Less than a week after the federal government had to bail out American International Group Inc. (AIG), the company sent executives on a $440,000 retreat to a posh California resort, lawmakers investigating the company's meltdown said Tuesday.
The tab included $23,380 worth of spa treatments for AIG employees at the coastal St. Regis resort south of Los Angeles even as the company tapped into an $85 billion loan from the government it needed to stave off bankruptcy.
The retreat didn't include anyone from the financial products division that nearly drove AIG under, but lawmakers were still enraged over thousands of dollars spent on catered banquets, golf outings and visits to the resort's spa and salon for executives of AIG's main U.S. life insurance subsidiary.
"Average Americans are suffering economically. They're losing their jobs, their homes and their health insurance," House Oversight Committee Chairman Henry Waxman, D-Calif., scolded the company during a lengthy opening statement. "Yet less than one week after the taxpayers rescued AIG, company executives could be found wining and dining at one of the most exclusive resorts in the nation."

garageman read my blog view my photos
Oct 8, 2008 | 9:23 AM

I suspect had AIG exec's been spending their own money they may have opted for a hot bath and a cup of tea to relieve their stress. This is further proof that AIG ought to have been left to they're own devices.

Katbird read my blog view my photos
Oct 8, 2008 | 10:34 AM

The bailout should have been voted on by the public. Period. It's our tax money and our future.

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Navy veteran, Milwaukee business owner, resident & cancer survivor. My name is Dan Sebring and I'm a 2010 Candidate for Congress in the 4th Congressional District. You can learn more about me at dansebringforcongress.com

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