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David Kuo, former #2 in the Bush administrations Office of Faith-Based Initiatives and author of the new book Tempting Faith, joined Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes to talk about the book's explosive revelations and the stark contrast between faith-based rhetoric and reality from an exclusive insiders perspective.

John Amato: David Kuo comes off as a very credible and honest man. He asks Christians to take a step back from politics because something is very wrong in the White House. Will this finally wake up the Extreme Christian right to accept the fact that Rove & Bush have been using them? They mock you and ridicule you and yet you'll still line up at the ballot box.

David Kuo is an evangelical Christian and card-carrying member of the religious right, who got a job in the White House in the president’s Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. He thought it was a dream-come-true: a chance to work for a president whose vision about compassionate conservatism would be matched with sweeping legislation to help the poor.

But Kuo says the so-called compassion agenda has fallen short of its promise and he blames President Bush for that in his new book. As correspondent Lesley Stahl reports, he also says the White House was a place that cynically used religion for political ends and that White House aides ridiculed the very Christian leaders who helped bring Mr. Bush to office.


In his book, Kuo wrote that White House staffers would roll their eyes at evangelicals, calling them "nuts" and "goofy."

Asked if that was really the attitude, Kuo tells Stahl, "Oh, absolutely. You name the important Christian leader and I have heard them mocked by serious people in serious places."

Specifically, Kuo says people in the White House political affairs office referred to Pat Robertson as "insane," Jerry Falwell as "ridiculous," and that James Dobson "had to be controlled." And President Bush, he writes, talked about his compassion agenda, but never really fought for it.

"The President of the United States promised he would be the leading lobbying on behalf of the poor. What better lobbyist could anybody get?" Kuo wonders.

What happened?

"The lobbyist didn’t follow through," he claims.

"What about 9/11?" Stahl asks. "All the priorities got turned about."

"I was there before 9/11. I know what happened before 9/11 … The trend before 9/11 was…president makes a big announcement and nothing happens," Kuo replies.

Kuo speaks as an insider. Even before he became the number two guy in the White House faith-based office, he had a long resume in the world of Christian conservatives.

Kuo says he took candidate Bush at his word during the 2000 campaign.

At the time, Bush proposed for the first time that he would spend $8 billion dollars on programs for the poor.

"I think it's one of the most important political speeches given in the last generation. I really do," says Kuo. "It laid out a whole new philosophy for Republicans."

After the election, to much fanfare, President Bush created the office of faith-based initiatives to increase funds to religious charities.

But Kuo says there were problems right off the bat. For one, he says the office dropped very quickly down the list of priorities.

Asked how much money finally went to them, Kuo says laughing, “Oh, in the first two years, first two years I think $60 million.”

"When you hold it up to a promise of $8 billion, I don't know how good I am at math, but I know that's less than one percent of a promise," says Kuo.

Part of the problem, he says, was indifference from "the base," the religious right. He took 60 Minutes to a convention of evangelical groups – his old stomping ground - and walked around the display booths, looking for any reference to the poor.

"You’ve got homosexuality in your kid’s school, and you’ve got human cloning, and partial birth abortion and divorce and stem cell," Kuo remarked. "Not a mention of the poor."

"This message that has been sent out to Christians for a long time now: that Jesus came primarily for a political agenda, and recently primarily a right-wing political agenda - as if this culture war is a war for God. And it’s not a war for God, it’s a war for politics. And that’s a huge difference," says Kuo.

Can you believe what things are coming to now and politics does it again!!!

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jfore read my blog
Aug 22, 2007 | 10:34 PM

Di: I won't comment on Mr Kuo's Christianity but, regardless of what he says, he is definitely not a Conservative. His solutions to poverty are right out of the Liberal playbook. It's redistribution of wealth. Take from the people who are producing and give it to the people who aren't. You see, Liberals look at people and think it's unfair that some people have more than others. So, instead of trying to elevate the position of those who have less, they want to take from the ones who have earned more and give it those who haven't so everybody is equally miserable. What kind of a solution is that. You see, Liberals measure success by the number of people who are receiving government handouts. Conservatives, on the other hand, measure success by the number of people who no longer need the handouts. Conservatism tries to create an atmosphere where the poor are given the opportunity to better themselves to the point where they are able to care for themselves without the government's help. But Liberals want people to rely on government so that they have control over them. The tax cuts were Compassionate Conservatism at work. Anyone who paid taxes had them reduced. And that included the "rich" because they are the ones who create the investment capital and the jobs. Full employment and a booming economy offered opportunities to the poor where, if they were willing to take advantage of it, they could earn a living and care for themselves. Keeping them on government handouts, as Mr. Kuo seems to want to do, doesn't help them. It traps them in poverty. That's what Johnson's "Great S

jfore read my blog
Aug 22, 2007 | 10:35 PM

"Great Society" did. Kuo's idea of helping people is destructive. It's not "Compassionae Conservatism." He is a Liberal who is upset that the Bush Administration didn't do things the Liberal way.

di8828 read my blog view my photos
Aug 22, 2007 | 11:17 PM

It is so twisted it's pathedic!

DVS11965 read my blog view my photos
Aug 23, 2007 | 7:55 AM

di, you know how I feel about any religion based on a book written by humans. Why shouldn't people use their type of belief to further their causes. What is a True Christian anyway? Doesn't the Bible say to give away everything you own? Doesn't the Bible promote being poor? Why are all these religious representatives who are suppose to be True Christians rich? Why don't they turn the other cheek, and insist on critizing others of the same faith? For their own power of course.

How many more donations do you think this dude will get because now people who don't like what's going on in politics will believe in him. Or maybe, could he be a plant to remove the Christian vote from the republicans? Why couldn't he be the new Democratic plan to topple the Christian Conservative power base?

Don't be fooled by any religious person. Everyone has an agenda.

RNC08 read my blog view my photos
Aug 23, 2007 | 9:02 AM

jfore has the right idea on programs for helping the poor, fact is they always do more harm than good . It is not possible to find even one case in which a welfare program has not lead directly to greater human suffering. It is not possible to protect people from making bad choices , and by delaying their well urned suffering we only give them the idea that they can make more “bad choices” and in turn teach this total lack of responsibility to their children as well.....it is like “feeding rats” all you get is more rates , they never turn into puppy's no matter how much you feed them and some day there are enough of them to EAT YOU .

DVS you are placing the “blame” for any and all ills on “Christians” but I do not see you making direct links to why/how Christians are the actual problem . Can you make any links ? Or are you just going to point a finger much as many simply point at (who ever is the president) and blame the person for whatever is going on ...?

di8828 read my blog view my photos
Aug 23, 2007 | 10:17 AM

DVS...I do know where you stand with that aspect and where Christians and politics are concerned today it seems to work within the same manner bringing politics and christianity into a power play of personal gain and the ones who suffer are the people so who could they really depend on to do what's right by them?

Both sides preach their own rights and ambitions for the people but what have they really shown to be "For the People"? Pointing the figure to one when all is envolved...it's always easy to point to the other for fault....just as they have always done and will continue to do so.

DVS11965 read my blog view my photos
Aug 23, 2007 | 1:21 PM

For the People means I will do what's best for me and mine, and the people can have what's left.

and

For the People who want what I want, and the ones that don't will pay for it.

AUGUSTALLEN28 read my blog view my photos
Aug 23, 2007 | 2:30 PM

I'm glad this is coming to light, This Administration hijacked Christianity for its own ends.Even Christian Publications had Bush's face all over them,as if he were the "second coming".It's gotten to the point where some people believe that Christian and Republican are synonymous.SORRY TO BURST THEIR BUBBLE,BUT ITS NOT.

DVS11965 read my blog view my photos
Aug 24, 2007 | 12:25 PM

RNC08 any religion that says if you don't believe like I do you will go to hell and you are wrong is a problem. The Christian population in this country is the same as any other. They want prayer in school - Christian Prayer, it's ok to open a sesson of congress with a prayer - again Christian Prayer, and we put our hand on the bible and swear to tell the truth - the Christian Bible.

Turn it around and make it a different religion that we are doing this with and Christians would be leading the charge against it.

What seems like my disdain towards Christianity is only because this country is full of Christian fanatics - which are no better then any other fanatic - who use religion to gain power and money. The worse part is that we claim to be a free society where all religion is tolerate, as long as our governing body is Christian and follows Christian laws.

Believe me, I am against any 2 faced organization that says they are for all, and base it on only 1.

If these items I've mentioned were being carried out with Muslim prayer and swearing and all else Muslim, I would be speaking out about that, but alas it isn't.

I enjoy the fact that you are standing up for a belief that any educated person can see is impossible to prove, or even happen, but that is your right as an American. Same as it is my right to say how silly religion is to begin with. Remember when the basis for any religion was made we thought the world was flat, Hurricans and other weather problems were acts of God against the evil etc. etc.

The basis of religious teachings are good, but the ult

DVS11965 read my blog view my photos
Aug 24, 2007 | 12:27 PM

The basis of religious teachings are good, but the ultimate goal of any religious leaders since the beginnings of religion has been power and control. If you don't believe me, check history.

schizoidman view my photos
Aug 24, 2007 | 1:57 PM

I have to say

"You can't run a country
By a book of religion
Not by a heap
Or a lump or a smidgeon
Of foolish rules
Of ancient date
Designed to make
You all feel great
While you fold, spindle
And mutilate
Those unbelievers
From a neighboring state"

danja read my blog view my photos
Aug 25, 2007 | 6:24 AM

DVS IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY......BUT SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANNA HEAR THAT IN THIS COUNTRY. THE SAME FUEL THAT DRIVES FANATICS IS THE SAME FUEL THAT DRIVE SOME EVANGELICALS AS WELL AS RADICAL MUSLIMS AND ANY ULTRA-CONSERVATIVE OR ULTRA-LIBERAL IDEALISTS IN ALL COUNTRIES.

OKAY, NOW SHOOT ME, AIM FOR THE HEAD.

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