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by anaconda-dan from St. Charles, MO

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I volunteer to take the test.

I'll get one of the African Americans I work with to take the test with me.

We are NOT firefiighters, but we are effective managers. Lets see how racially biased it is. Wouldn't everyone be interested in a non-racial evaluation? Aren't you just the least bit curoius?

Bring Al and Jessie in.

Anybody with me? It's OUR city for cryin' out loud!

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kadas read my blog
Oct 1, 2007 | 12:47 AM

I like your idea. Looking forward to seeing the test results

SoSiouxMe read my blog
Oct 1, 2007 | 1:21 AM

I'm with ya - except for the Al & Jesse part.

mr_wildflower read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2007 | 7:13 AM

No Calculators.......

LadyCardFan read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2007 | 8:58 AM

You go Dan and Friend. Keep us informed!

anaconda-dan read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2007 | 9:38 AM

You know nobody will respond to this.
But it seems like a reasonable request.
Unless people have something to hide.

Speedy62269 read my blog
Oct 1, 2007 | 9:39 AM

Hey Dan - I looked over the one that was online (25 questions) and answered the majority correct that dealt with common sense. Now, when it came to actual knowledge of firefighting I didn't know these because I haven't had even a crash course.

I cannot see any way this test is steering towards white/black or male/female or dog/cat...it's a straight line test that has absolutlely no steering. Let me know how you did.

anaconda-dan read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2007 | 9:58 AM

Where is it?

wackymom read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2007 | 1:06 PM

You Go Dan! Let us know how ya do!

sarcasticdragon
Oct 1, 2007 | 3:24 PM

Let's see this so called racist test.
Good idea.

I understood the test was basic skills and "what would you do" type questions.

Questions like.. Do you pull the child or the family dog from the burning house first questions.
If the color of the child is and issue with this question then you dont deserve to be fireman in the first place.

RodneyNeff read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2007 | 5:47 PM

You may have to take the state fire test first. If you get to take the test..Good luck.

StateStreetHeaven
Oct 1, 2007 | 6:12 PM

I talked to my brother, and there are A LOT of vey happy firemen in the city right now!

melmenendez read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2007 | 6:58 PM

BOTTOM LINE the chief....well ex chief, had a job to do and he didn't do it! In anyother J.O.B. whoeve was in charge would be reprimanded as well possibly fired!!! Would someone explain to me why this is such a big freaking deal!!!! The protesters at city hall are FOR THE BIRDS!!!! DON'T they have a LIFE or JOBS to do???? GROW UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2ndheart read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2007 | 6:59 PM

TEST-written, oral, mutiple choice, open book,or closed book can not be racist when everyone has access to all the same information

Cutter read my blog
Oct 1, 2007 | 7:41 PM

2ndheart . You are so right !

becker read my blog
Oct 1, 2007 | 7:49 PM

Wonder why it took so long to get rid of him?

ILguy62221
Oct 1, 2007 | 10:17 PM

If there are no questions about crime, murders, poorly kept yards, 15+ kids per single mother... how will the black people be able to answer the questions. For the math part, maybe they can use their illegitimate kids...

chincheck read my blog
Oct 1, 2007 | 10:39 PM

Oh my gosh all these comments are so racist! Examine yourselves people. It's funny how white people paint all black people with the same brush. There is a difference you have n*****s and you have black people. You have trailer trash and redn***s and you have white people there is a difference and based on most of these comments most of you are the later two.

chincheck read my blog
Oct 1, 2007 | 10:55 PM

This is how a test can be racially biased. The former Dircetor of Personnel William Duffy wrote in a letter some years ago, that the black members of the fire department scored better on the fire scene assesment portion of the promotional exam. At this time the fire scene was in essay form. You had to manage manpower and equipment, there was no guessing you had to know your job, and there was no a,b,c,d answer key. Since that time the city has gone to an almost entirely multiple guess test. Why do whites seem to test better on multiple choice on the fire department, you ask.They are better connected in the Department of Personnel.Firefighters have to wait two to three months for results now and in several promotional exams were not allowed to see their test. You didn't hear about the white firefighters who told on the other white firefighters for cheating did you. NO not in our media. Everyone on the fire department knows who cheated, it's always going to leak out. It's just sad that St.Louis can't get past the nonsense.

anaconda-dan read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2007 | 10:57 PM

There was only one comment that could be seen as racist.
Did you actually read any of this?

freespirit55 read my blog
Oct 1, 2007 | 11:10 PM

Here we go again, always wanting to make any issue concerning a black person into a racial issue. Well, in this case, I guess the black community is right-Chief George was demoted because he was black. If he'd been white and defied an explicit directive from his boss he would likely have been fired. You wouldn't have seen whites out protesting the firing though. You can bet my job would go bye-bye if I deliberately (and publicly) defied my boss.

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I'm an introspective nearly 50 white guy. I'm thinking about how I might retire. Tired of giving everything away. All of my 3 kids are gone, I have a smart, good-looking wife, and a couple of shi-tzu's. I scuba dive, play guitar in a rock band, restore vintage Porsches, and try to remain calm. 4th of July and Halloween are my favorite holidays.

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