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From factcheck.org:

 A new e-mail being circulated about Obama's tax proposals is almost entirely false. Alert readers may already have noted that this chain e-mail does not provide links to any of Obama's actual proposals or cite any sources for the claims it makes. That is because they are made up.This widely distributed message is so full of misinformation that we find it impossible to believe that it is the result of simple ignorance or carelessness on the part of the writer. Almost nothing it says about Obama's tax proposals is true. We conclude that this deception is deliberate.

Our own sources for the following are Obama's own Web site and other statements, interviews with Obama's policy advisers, and a comprehensive analysis of both the McCain and Obama tax plans produced by the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, plus additional sources to which we have provided links.
  • Home Sales: The claim that Obama would impose a 28 percent tax on the profit from "all home sales" is false. Both Obama and McCain would continue to exempt the first $250,000 of gain from the sale of a primary residence ($500,000 for a married couple filing jointly) which results in zero tax on all but a very few home sales.

  • Capital Gains Rate: It's untrue that Obama is proposing a 28 percent capital gains tax rate. He said in an interview on CNBC that he favors raising the top rate on capital gains from its present 15 percent to 20 percent or more, but no higher than 28 percent. And as for a 28 percent rate, he added, "my guess would be it would be significantly lower than that." Furthermore, he has said only couples making $250,000 or more (or, his policy advisers tell us, singles making more than $200,000) would pay the higher capital gains rate. That means the large majority of persons who pay capital gains taxes would see no increase at all.

  • Tax on Dividends: Another false claim is that Obama proposes to raise the tax rate on dividends to 39.6 percent. Dividends currently are taxed at a top rate of 15 percent, and Obama would raise that to the same rate as he would tax capital gains, somewhere between 20 percent and 28 percent but likely "significantly" lower than 28 percent. This higher tax also would fall only on couples making $250,000 or more or singles making more than $200,000.

  • Taxing IRAs and 529s: Contrary to the claim in this e-mail, raising tax rates on capital gains or dividends would not result in higher taxes on any investments held in Individual Retirement Accounts or in popular, tax-deferred "college funds" under section 529 of the Internal Revenue Code. The whole point of such tax-deferred plans is that dividends and capital gains are allowed to accumulate and compound tax-free, and neither Obama nor McCain proposes to change that. And as previously mentioned, any capital gains or dividend income from stocks, bonds or mutual funds owned outside of tax-deferred accounts would continue to be taxed at current rates except for couples making over $250,000, or singles making more than $200,000.

  • Doubled Taxes? The claim that "Under Obama your taxes will more than double!" is also false. The comparative rate tables this e-mail provides for McCain and Obama are entirely wrong, as we explained in an earlier article March 13 about another false e-mail from which these tables are copied. It is supposedly a comparison of tax rates before and after the Bush tax cuts, but it grossly overstates the effect of the Bush cuts. Furthermore, Obama proposes to retain the Bush cuts for every single income level shown in this bogus table.

  • Estate Tax. The claim that Obama proposes to "restore the inheritance tax" is also false, as are the claims that McCain would impose zero tax and that Bush "repealed" it. McCain and Obama both would retain a reduced version of the estate tax, as it is correctly called, though McCain would reduce it by more.

    The tax now falls only on estates valued at more than $2 million (effectively $4 million for couples able to set up the required legal and financial arrangements). It reaches a maximum rate of 45 percent on amounts more than that. It was not repealed, but it is set to expire temporarily in 2010, then return in 2011, when it would apply to estates valued at more than $1 million ($2 million for couples), with the maximum rate rising to 55 percent.

    Obama has proposed to apply the tax only to estates valued at more than $3.5 million ($7 million for couples), holding the maximum rate at 45 percent. McCain would apply it to estates worth more than $5 million ($10 million for couples), with a maximum rate of 15 percent.

  • "New Tax" Falsehoods: The e-mail continues with a string of made-up taxes that it falsely claims Obama has proposed. He has not proposed a tax on new homes with more than 2,400 square feet, or a new gasoline tax or a tax on retirement accounts. The most laughably false claim is that Obama would tax "water."
Two claims in this message, while not completely false, are still grossly misleading.

The claim that Obama would impose "new taxes on natural resources" may refer to his support for a cap-and-trade system to reduce carbon emissions, which indeed would impose large costs on industries burning coal, gas or oil and, indirectly, on their consumers. But McCain also supports cap-and-trade legislation, and even coauthored an early version of a bill that reached the Senate floor this year. Obama's plan would give the federal government more of the revenue from auctioning pollution permits than McCain's plan. Whether cap-and-trade amounts to a "tax" is a matter of interpretation. The fact is neither McCain nor Obama call it that.

There is also some truth to the claim that Obama would impose "new taxes" to finance his health care plan, depending on your interpretation of "new." He has said he would pay for much of his plan "by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire for people making more than $250,000 per year, as they are scheduled to do." That would certainly be a tax increase for those high-income persons, compared with what they are paying now. But whether that's imposing a new tax, or just letting an old one come back, depends on your point of view. It may well be that Obama will eventually propose tax increases to finance some of his plan. We've noted before that the "cost savings" that he says will finance much of his plan are inflated and probably won't materialize, according to independent experts we consulted. But it's wrong to say that he's proposing such taxes now.

The short answer to our reader's question is, no, this message isn't real. It's a pack of lies.
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nativephoenician read my blog
Jul 22, 2008 | 1:47 PM

aksjfd, let me guess that your one of those Obama supporters that is wearing the lastest head gear given to its supporters from the Democratic Party. Side Blinders whorn by all "BLEEP" to keep them MOVING ALONG! If you really want to believe that crap then go ahead and do so. He may claim that he doesnt want to raise your taxes, but he will SAY ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED!!!And once he is elected(assuming he will be)what is the first thing he will do? RAISE YOUR TAXES BECAUSE HE CAN. He may talk a good talk but to my ears its all INSINCERE HOGWASH, Did you know that he wants to end WORLD POVERTY? where do you think that money is going to come from? The orchard now growing on White House property called "The Money Tree's" How pray tell will he be funding that money? BY RAISING YOUR TAXES to flip the bill to put the 3rd world nations on welfare, PAID FOR BY THE U.S. TAX PAYOR. No thank-you. So you can take your so called facts and place them where

dhw1949 read my blog view my photos
Jul 22, 2008 | 3:51 PM

Raising a tax from 15% to 20% is a 33% increase. 15% to 28% increase is an increase of 87%. He says "significantly less than 28%".
DO YOU BELIEVE HIM?
He's a Democrat, Pelosi and too much of the Congress and Senate are Democrats. If he gets elected it will be the ruin of our country, our economy, and our sovereignty cause all these Democrats will be able to do whatever they feel like. They are the ones blocking more oil drilling with the excuse that it won't help now....what about the future? Getting off foreign oil dependency is not a priority with them.

AZRon read my blog
Jul 22, 2008 | 6:19 PM

Will the real Barack Obama please stand up.

worldlyone read my blog
Jul 22, 2008 | 7:36 PM

First of all, Obama is a democrat and their nature is to tax and spend so don't be surprised if he wins and your taxes increase. Secondly, he is, by his track record in congress, an anti gun zealot and I don't trust anyone who thinks that law abiding citizens should not have guns for any reason. There certainly is more hidden reasons other than safety. These dummycrats don't know the difference between a law-abiding citizen and a law breaking criminal and they can't wait to have complete control of the entire government so they can tax and spend as freely as they wish. I can't figure who in their right mind would vote for any of them.

JustMePA read my blog view my photos
Jul 22, 2008 | 7:45 PM

And does factcheck.org breakdown how much your taxes will go up when the Bush tax cuts expire?? The simple fact is that under any Democrat taxes will go up for most people.
Of course Obama may be able to top the loaves and fishes trick, or instead of turning water into wine he will just make $$$$ appear when needed. He he is near the Dead Sea maybe he will walk on water.

KenOfAZ read my blog view my photos
Jul 23, 2008 | 12:48 AM

Obama want to get rid of the Bush tax cuts. In other words, he will raise taxes. I don't think it will be double, but I am paying too much right now. So ANY tax increase, is not acceptable.
Obama wants national health care. THAT is going to be expensive. And as all dummycrats, he will want to increase the free handouts to the poor and illegals.
Anybody that works for a living (as opposed to living off our government free handouts)is nuts to vote for Obama.

aksjfd read my blog view my photos
Jul 23, 2008 | 11:30 AM

Have you seen a tax schedule that says exactly what the Bush tax cuts were and where they will be when they expire? Well here you go courtesy of http://www.ctj.org/pdf/gwbdata.pdf.

THose making less than 17,000 1.1%
31000 5.5
50000 8.7
84000 12.7
170000 12.1
450000 6.6
no limit 53!!!!!!!

Obama proposes keeping the tax cuts where they are except for the taxes of the top 4 and 1% or those earning more than 450,000. Hmmm...wonder how much money GWB made on these tax cuts



CBS: Obama Tax Policy Better For Middle Class
By Kyle Drennen (Bio | Archive)
July 8, 2008 - 17:51 ET

"A report on the economic policies of John McCain and Barack Obama by correspondent Chip Reid on Monday’s CBS "Evening News" suggested that Obama’s supposed middle class tax cut would be more beneficial for American families: "Obama's plan is to roll back the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and use the savings for a middle-class tax cut...A recent study by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center says Obama's plan would give a cut of more than a thousand dollars to families making between $37,000 and $66,000 a year. Under McCain's plan, they'd get just $319.""

aksjfd read my blog view my photos
Jul 23, 2008 | 11:31 AM

As i always say, you can only be a Republican until you actually start researching the issues and positions for yourself, then you have no choice but to realize you have been bamboozled.

worldlyone read my blog
Jul 23, 2008 | 8:34 PM

aksjfd:
listen you nimrod liberal, I've done more research than you have teeth. You are dead wrong and if you think your wonder horse is a knight in shining armor, are you going to be surprised. You can twist around tax stories as you see fit and but, in the end the taxes will be raised if an when Obama is elected. The real push to overcome his deceit hasn't even started yet and his tax proposals are only a small portion of his lies. However, you can continue to believe his BS and write these ridiculous blogs if you wish but, don't say you were not informed.

KenOfAZ read my blog view my photos
Jul 23, 2008 | 11:56 PM

Wealthy people are the ones providing the jobs. If a business owner makes $100K more profit a year by paying $100K less a year in taxes, he is more likely to invest that $100K in equipment or employees. If enough people buy more equipment, it provides more jobs. Those jobs provide more tax money. Many lower income people think that as long as the rich guy is getting screwed on their taxes, it is no big deal. Well, that rich guy paying more taxes just might cost the poor guy his job.

Atm_Thght read my blog
Jul 24, 2008 | 5:32 PM

Obama's & the Liberal Majority's Tax Increases!

INTERESTING DATA JUST RECEIVED ON TAXES

This is something you should be aware of so you don't get blind-sided.
This is really going to catch a lot of families off guard. It should
make you worry.

Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:


CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
Now it's 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples).
McCain does not
propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% capital gains tax on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN 15% (no change)

OBAMA 39.6%

How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds,
college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays
or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money
earned on taxes if Obama become president. The experts predict that 'higher
tax rates on dividends and capital gains wo uld crash the stock market yet
do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN (no changes)

Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $1

Atm_Thght read my blog
Jul 24, 2008 | 5:34 PM

Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750


Under Obama your taxes will more than double!
How does this affect you? No explanation needed. This is pretty
straight forward.

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN
0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax

How does this affect you? Many families have lost businesses,
farms and ranches, and homes that have
been in their families for generations because they could not
afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved
0Aones will lose them because of these taxes.

Everything above this level is accurate to a point. The BUSH tax cuts were approved in the form of a "sunset law", which expires in 2010. What this means is that CONGRESS must extend these cuts or they automatically revert back to the tax law prior to the cuts. CONGRESS doesn't have to do a thing to raise your taxes. They will just let the cuts expire, and don't even have to vote on it. CONGRESS can actually say they never voted for a tax increase. If it is allowed to expire, the tax rate for all working class folks will go up by an average of $3000 to $3500 per year…..automatically. So this is not just about Obama for President. The CONGRESS in this election is at least as

Atm_Thght read my blog
Jul 24, 2008 | 5:37 PM

The CONGRESS in this election is at least as important as President. Just imagine.....Obama as President and NO congressional opposition.
NOTHING could be worse.
If you must vote in a Democrat President at least vote in a Republican Congress as
"watch dogs."


NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA

* New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than
2400 square feet.

* New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already)

* New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity)

* New taxes on retirement accounts
and last but not least....

* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same
level of medical care as third-world countries!!!

What all of this amounts to is this. The American working class, receiving regular paychecks from our employers, are now paying
20 - 25% to 30% of our income in taxes.
If Obama becomes president and puts all of his proposed programs in place, with the help of a Liberal majority in congress, American working people will pay over 50% of our income in taxes to the US government to support all of the government entitlement programs.

"My friends, we live in the "greatest nation" in
the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to
'change it'."
-- Barack Obama

Will we have any $'change'$ left?
Can we afford that? CAN YOU?

JustMePA read my blog view my photos
Jul 24, 2008 | 8:11 PM

ATM_ your math is correct and reflects what will happen if Obama is elected it is sad that so many people hear the empty rhetoric of Obama and belive he will follow thru or that its true.
Obama supporters you might want to go back and read what he promised in the early primries and compare it to what he is saying now.
Obama your new name is Flounder.

aksjfd read my blog view my photos
Jul 25, 2008 | 11:09 AM

ATM--hate to break it to you, but that email is a pack of lies brought to you by the lying Republican attack machine. The wealthy are saving 3.3% (or, if you make 500K per year --roughly $15,000+ is what you save in taxes. If you make $50K per year, you save only 1.3% of your income or roughly $600.)

Ken---Please show proof that your theory is true. If it was, the economy wouldn't be in the shitter right now and we wouldn't have the highest unemployment rate in 20+ years.

QUIT BELIEVING IN A PARTY THAT HAS DONE NOTHING BUT LIE AND MAKE OUR COUNTRY LOOK BAD FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS!!!!

Atm_Thght read my blog
Jul 25, 2008 | 5:05 PM

aksjfd--hate to break it to you, but you've been tricked!
I agree the last {20 years} have been in (the shitter) as you put it.
If the Irish Arab-American O'bama and his unconscionable party does get in office, it will be a hell of a lot worst.

aksjfd read my blog view my photos
Jul 27, 2008 | 12:47 AM

I never said the last 20 years have been in the shitter. Nope, I said the past 8 years has been in the shitter and unemployment is at its highest rate in the past 20+years.

Why do you think the Dems are going to do worse than how the Reps have done? Is it a race thing? You have such strong feelings against the Irish and Arabs. Why?

Goldbug read my blog
Jul 27, 2008 | 9:05 AM

Plus Ken, if taxes are raised on businesses the tax is a cost of doing business and prices go up.

The government wastes enough of our money, they don't need any more. Raising taxes always slows the economy, costs jobs, causes inflation and creates more socialist subjects for the Dems to control.

Atm_Thght read my blog
Jul 27, 2008 | 2:53 PM

aksjfd

You really don't comprehend very well do you?
Read Slower!
I typed this really slow so you might get it!

H e r e ' s h o p i n g !

Oh, ..... just to answer your twisted question (as like many you take out of context) I have nothing against Arabs or the Irish .....only against liars like; i.e., Obama and his lefties!!!

Batter Up!

Atm_Thght read my blog
Jul 27, 2008 | 4:03 PM

Who is chanting "Profiling", "Profiling", "Profiling" ..... It's those who 'cover-up' illegal status!

Who keeps chanting "Race!", "Race!", "Race!"
..... It's those who are playing the racist Race-Card!

NOTE this following L.A. TIMES PULICATED ITEM:
From the L. A. Times

1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people)are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County. )

(All 10 of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida , and New York) results from immigratio

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Save the lives of your friends and family, vote for universal health care and a free world market of pharmeceuticals. Vote Democrat on Nov. 4. Save the lives of mothers who experience complications in their last trimester; that they may have the choice to continue their life caring for the children they already have rather than die during child birth. Vote Democrat on Nov. 4. Save the psyches and perhaps lives of rape victims that they cannot be raped of their choice to preserve what little of thier body they feel they have left. Vote Democrat on Nov. 4

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