Tallmanok2's Blog

And when Engler revamped the welfare programs to severe restriction, specifically the General Assistance ones, (not the Aid to Dependent Children, the program for mothers on their own), that change effected more than 90k residents of michigan, he ignorantly hurt more working families under the General Assistance Family (GAF) branch. These are the families who work, submit their earnings which are in turn deducted from their benefits, which were miniscule to begin with.
The fact of the matter is, in an attempt to eliminate benefits for able-bodied adults getting free money, (which I can agree with to some degree), he destroyed families in the process. The greater percentage of the program was implemented into working families and he took that.

Detroit,

I hated John too but what I am after here is making sure even though it looks good for Obama everyone must get to the polls and vote.

Your right, it does look good for Obama, but the primary elections showed, even then, that the voter registration and turn out had been raised significantly. I hear people making discussion about blacks voting for Obama simply because he is black. And while that might be true, those numbers still won't be enough, therefore not as relevant. (and for the record, I know you didn't mention race, I did, and I am only bringing it up as another issue)As someone in another blog mentioned, it will be the white voters who elect Obama, not the black voters.

They shouldn't be dismissed as not relevant to the post, unless they are. And, as you can hopefully see, they are completely relevant.

I am just beginning to read your blogs, and while I agree with most of what you say, I am also simply pointing out how I usually respond to other posts.

Let them bring on the wars then brother. I understand something very important, people will go to their graves holding steadfast in their beliefs. That you can never change. Someones socialization leads them to their belief systems as adults. Most will never question why it is they believe what they do, or why they support the things they do.

A "simple agreement" is about the best I can do with this one; Especially when I see the Sunday Fox News show picking an Independant to debate for McCain and the co-Chairperson of the Obama campaign to debate for guess who? This :DetroitLover' blogger seems to believe they regulate many's opinions in here and are judge/jury/convicter. Many of the long time regulars like you & I Tall do agree & disagree but experience has taught me that they do come & go from time to time, these "control freaks". Yeah I went there. Just out of curiosity, where were all these "concerned" voters when it was Bush & Gore or we debate anything other than this "miraculous Change" many claim will happen? Remember who threw the first stone, DetLover. This is how I respond when spoken negatively to, by pointing out my experience with almost 300 blogs here on a variety of subjects not just the ones that apparently affect the few. You want to call this "defensive" or "an attitude problem", go for it. I see it as speaking like a man and when spoken to. If the Fox2 blogs ever need a moderator, you should apply, though. LOL.

I read your remarks about my feeling like this is a competition and could only shake my head, considering that remark was a humorous one to you and you took and ran with it. I'm sorry you can't appreciate my remarks for what they are. I also don't simply dismiss others remarks as "an attitude problem." Even with these remarks you have just made, I am still trying to understand where you are coming from, and it is difficult. That is my problem, not yours, for the record. As with anything else, or anyone else I encounter, I seek to understand the impression I have left, if only to improve myself.

The people in Detroit know why they are the poorest city in America. They have had democratic mayor leadership for the passed 47 years. The state of Michigan can learn alot from the lower levels of government by taking a good look at the top 10 poorest cities in America.

Hey jax, I never claimed to be a professional debater either. I have not, or would I, dissect anything. Questioning something is far different than dissection, it is philosophy. The very act of seeking knowledge.
I just have never accepted things at face value, that is all. I have not came on here intending to discredit anyone, offend anyone, or put anyone down for their views. When someone puts their views out there, they are subject to interpretation, aren't they?

Detroit are you always this way? I simply explained to you that I was trying to steer you away from John Engler as it has been hashed out after a major problem in here. I am in no way trying to hurt you here but do you see perhaps your a bit anal-retentive. I myself and others in here are guilty of the same behavior at times.