Native_Floridian's Blog

And also, DO NOT EVEN think of testing me or anyone else for "tobacco products" when I or they take your drug test/screen for employment or even during employment! ILLEGAL DRUGS are one thing, but tobacco IS NOT ILLEGAL, therefore YOU, NOR ANY ENTITY/COMPANY or ORGANIZATION has any right to TEST ME or ANYONE for its USEage PERIOD! If you do, YOU ARE VIOLATING MY CIVIL RIGHT TO CHOOSE MY OWN PATH and as long as it IS NOT ILLEGAL, again, you have no dadgum business checking for it in my or anyone elses body!!!

So just keep on refusing people jobs or fire them because they smoke and I'll bet the FEDERAL COURTS WILL turn this against the very companies DISCRIMINATING AGAINST SMOKERS of TOBACCO products because, again, this IS NOT ILLEGAL, but DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ANYONE because they smoke DEFINITELY IS!

Second Smoke STILL HAS YET TO BE PROVEN PERIOD! And if Second Hand smoke is so dang bad why are we also not BANNING ANY VEHICLE that outputs CARBON MONOXIDE? Hmmm, here we have a MORE DEADLY UNSEEN GAS that CAN KILL YOU in a matter of minutes, but that's okay, but the second hand smoke, which IS NOT going to be detrimental to anyone UNLESS it is an ON GOING, 7 day a week, 24 hours a day, then maybe it may harm you, but what little folks are exposed to "second hand smoke" is a LOT LESS DANGEROUS than vehicle emissions!

And I NEVER smoked EXCEPT on DESIGNATED BREAK TIMES, nor did I smoke around NON-SMOKERS unless they joined us smokers.


Sorry the LAWS can not change for LEGAL SUBSTANCES unless ALL are taken into it, but yet, alcohol consumption is okay and I've worked with many a lush that came to work like that, they can keep their job, but I can't because I smoke ONLY on MY TIME or COMPANY APPOINTED BREAKS or AFTER HOURS.

Sorry it IS DISCRIMINATION and it is BLATANT DISCRIMINATION.

People need to quit being so dang stupid about this and quit making IDIOT LAWS for UNINTELLIGENT folks that think they know what they are talking about and don't know anything about any real facts to back it up.

How did they test this second hand smoke theory, eh? Where is the proof to back it up? They isn't any, it's just like hearsay evidence, no FACTS to back it up at all!

BTW, I could send you to a couple of sites to do some research. But working in the medical field for 20+ years, before going into my own business, I have something better for you're whining, cigarette habit. Visit a children's cancer hospital and talk to the doctor's there. Visit a group home to where people are dying caused by cigarettes - those suffering with lung cancer. Visit a Pulmonologist / Respiratory office and see how many younger children and teenagers are being fitted with CPAP machines or have to be on medication because of their parent's selfish behavior of smoking! Then see who is discriminating who! But as most smokers do, you'll always have an excuse to make yourself look better while lighting up at the same time!

Mother in law has COPD because she has been smoking for a very long time, my wife grew up in a house where both parents smoke, so then I'm guessing now if someone LIVES with a smoker they too WILL BE DENIED a job because they are around a substance that is PERFECTLY LEGAL?

Yes, companies have a right to keep folks from smoking INSIDE the building, but smoking is done OUTSIDE COMPANIES, but there is a PARKING LOT is there not where all the cars are and some folks do sit and run their cars to crank the AC on hot days if they eat their lunch in their car or take a nap on their lunch time, so your comment about running a vehicle INSIDE is totally pointless since we all know smoking can not be done inside, but if I am a smoker and smoking on my breaktime (I NEVER took extra breaks to smoke, some do, but I see NON SMOKERS ABUSE this too!) OUTSIDE AWAY from the building IS MY RIGHT and IS NOT THE RIGHT of ANY COMPANY/ENTITY/ORGANIZATION or PERSON to tell me that.

And since you bring up health problems, what about SCLOROSIS(sp?) of the liver by Alcoholics, but I don't see alcohol being banned, especially WHERE CHILDREN ARE PRESENT! This includes SPORTING EVENTS, FLEA MARKETS, HOLIDAY CELEBRATIONS, etc. So why are we told NO SMOKING because it's a BAD EXAMPLE but it's still okay to ADVERTISE on TV and make it look so wonderful or see folks guzzling beer or other alcoholic beverages in front of children, but, wait, that's okay because it can't harm them? WHAT A LOAD OF MALARKY!!!! DRUNK DRIVERS KILL MORE PEOPLE DAILY than ANY TOBACCO PRODUCT WOULD in A YEAR!

I didn't

NOBSHERE, meet me in person and you'll find out I'm, just as TOUGH off the keyboard as on it! And that IS NO BS!

Nowhere is it written, not in any of our too-many laws, not the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence ... nowhere is it written that anyone has the right to harm others by filling their air with carcinogenic smoke.

The dangers of second-hand smoke are not myths or rumors, rather facts gleaned from multiple studies.

Smokers have the right, in my opinion, to kill themselves, should they desire, by any means they choose. All we ex-smokers and non-smokers ask is that we be left out of those plans. I don't think that's an unreasonable request.

nati -- you are to be commended for being, apparently, the most considerate and courteous smoker who has ever lived. But the fact remains that you are poisoning the air the rest of us breathe.

I agree with you that cigarettes should be declared illegal. Good luck with that. You might as well try to outlaw stupidity.

BTW, if there is anything people should
be pi$$ed off at smoking about it's
the "inconsiderates" that throw their
butts all over the place...now THAT
DOES get me upset and they do ruin
it for us that DO CARE about others
rights to clean surroundings.

With that said, I would like to know
why the people that clog their arteries
every day with fast food refuse to
throw away their Wendy's, Checker's
and McD's bags and cups (you know, the crap I have to step on every time I get out of my car in most parking lots)in an appropriate trash receptacle? Maybe they should be next on the Job Nazi's list. Until they find solutions
to these problems, don't even dare bother
me about smoking a cig on MY OWN TIME!

BTW. The Federal Courts need to overturn their EMPLOYEES CAN TAKE GUNS to WORK as well as allow you to have them in your car. After all, there are some folks that ABUSE this as well, but you see that's okay too. A person with a gun can kill faster than second hand smoke, even faster than a drunk driver, so then why are we continuing to support and allow people to carry guns, eh? I feel that is EXTREMELY DETRIMENTAL to MY HEALTH too, but because you don't smoke it, that is supposed to be okay, oh wait, a gun smokes after it's fired, and I'm pretty damn sure GUNPOWDER is also a CARCINOGEN, so you gun toters better not shoot that gun at anyone 'cause it may also give them cancer from the smoke reside wafting around in the air. So yea, let's just take all the guns away too.

THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE, you want what you want to have, but then you opt to TAKE AWAY from others, either way you look at it, IT IS ALL WRONG and NO ONE should be telling ANYONE what they should or should not be doing if it is LEGAL, Illegal substances are a different matter, but if it's considered LEGAL, it SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE and the folks that enjoy or use LEGAL PRODUCTS should also be LEFT to their own devices!

And to the drinkers (Alcohol) out there, well apparently YOU DO NOT REALIZE HOW MUCH YOU STINK and REEK when you imbibe either, I sure don't like the smell of it and it gives me a bad headache when I do (smell alcohol when someone has been drinking to excess).

But the drunks that don't smoke have the gall to say we are poisoning their air, well what about those of us that dobn't imbine (I don't drink alcoholic beverages period!), I don't like smelling the alcohol on your breath or clothing either, you don't want to breathe my smoke, well NEITHER do I want to breathe YOUR alcohol fumes! So it's a TWO WAY STREET here folks. Can't have it BOTH ways!

@nd part from above:


Even if I were a die-hard NON-SMOKER (and I was at one time), I would not want to have my tax money paying welfare checks to a person perfectly capable of working, but because they may be a smoker, have lost or been denied a job and NOW WE (all of us) will have to foot the bill to help them along.

No, I'm not trying to make this a NON_SMOKER vs SMOKER issue here, I am just trying to point out by imposing such IDIOTIC BANS as not being allowed to smoke on or off the job on breaks or our own time WILL CAUSE UNEMPLOYMENT and WELFARE CASES to RISE where these lunatic bans may be put into place!

So now THINK ABOUT that and WHERE SOME MORE of YOUR TAX MONEY may be going because of such lunacy.

Or has NO ONE even thought about this side of the coin and the repurcussion it can cause?