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One of the alternately wonderful and terrible things about the world of the Internet is that there are no rugs under which to sweep things, no awnings under which to duck for cover, and no arbiter calling the shots on what’s fair or legit. Rumors and scandal take on a life of their own, with people in the Blogosphere weighing in, often in that vicious, snarky tone that anonymity seems to invite. So once a story’s out there, it's fair game, starting at the bottom of the credibility food chain with scattered internet chatter, sometimes garnering the attention of gossip columnists and the tabloids, and then occasionally exciting the more established media enough to get us poking around. With John Edwards, we seem to be in the middle of just such a cycle, as scrutiny into his relationship with a 43 year-old woman named Rielle Hunter is mounting online, with recent speculation reaching pretty outrageous proportions.

It all seems to have unfolded like this: 

In 2006 John Edwards meets relatively unknown filmmaker Rielle Hunter at a bar. She pitches an idea to do a series of web videos about him meant to paint him in a relaxed, informal way. Through Edwards’s One America campaign, she’s hired, traveling around the country with him while filming. The first video debuts in January of 2007. Her company gets a check for $114,000.

In August 2007, after Hunter’s work with Edwards is long complete, an oblique insinuation appears in the NY Post’s “Page Six” that says the following: “Which political candidate enjoys visiting New York because he has a girlfriend who lives downtown? The pol tells her he’ll marry her when his current wife is out of the picture.” Bloggers are incited, creating a firestorm of speculation online about Edwards and Hunter. Soon enough, they're complaining that the web videos Hunter created for the Edwards campaign have suddenly disappeared, no longer available online either through Hunter's production company or through Edwards's One America campaign.

In September 2007 Huffington Post Blogger Sam Stein writes about his extraordinary efforts trying to track down the Hunter-Edwards web videos. He claims he tried to get some information from assistants on the project, to no avail. He claims that neither Hunter nor her business partner would talk to him. He says that Edwards’s people finally offered to let him see the videos in private, while accompanied by a campaign staffer, but did not give any plausible explanation as to why the videos had vanished online. (They’ve since allegedly resurfaced: http://www.webcastr.com/politics/politics.
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In October 2007 the National Enquirer reports that Edwards is allegedly having an affair with a “mystery woman” who traveled with the campaign and whom he allegedly initially met at a bar. An Edwards spokesperson denies the allegations. Hunter denies the allegations too, even though the Enquirer hasn’t yet mentioned her by name at this point. Bloggers pounce. The LA Times mentions the scandal and the denials on their website, but not in print, to a flurry of online comments, many berating the Times for covering the “news” at all in light of the source, that “paragon of journalistic virtue" known as the Enquirer.

On December 19th, 2007 (yes, just over a week ago), the Enquirer trumps their old juicy story with a new juicy story that offers up the following allegations:

-Edwards and Hunter had allegedly been having an affair for over 18 months.

-Hunter is allegedly 6 months pregnant. 

-Hunter allegedly told a source that Edwards is the father of her yet unborn child.

-Hunter is allegedly in hiding, recently having moved to North Carolina from the east coast, and is being financially cared for, housed and protected by close former Edwards campaign staffer Andrew Young.

-Once Hunter is allegedly pressed by the Enquirer to reveal who the father of her child is, she and Andrew Young allegedly issue a statement 24 hours later saying that he, Young, is in fact, the father, not Edwards.

-The Enquirer can allegedly find no evidence that Hunter and Young (a 41 year-old married man with children) have had any prior romantic involvement.

-Sources close to Young allegedly think his paternity claim may be one elaborate cover-up to protect his friend’s presidential aspirations.

The piece is full of those sadly nuance-free details that tabloid news stories (and regular news stories and sordid rumors) are often simmered down to -- steamy emails, hotel rendezvous, sheriff's deputies being called in on the press, etc., so it’s hard to know what to believe. The details are mind-bending, though. If you haven't read the whole thing, and want to, it can be found here:

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/john_edwards_love_chil
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There are several theories going around the Blogosphere about this one:

1)    That Edwards did have an affair with Hunter, but that she may be crazy enough to have gotten pregnant by some other guy, telling her friends and Edwards that he is the father even though he isn’t. (One blogger even added, “I mean, how do you get pregnant at 43 by accident?”)

2)    That Young is indeed the father, but that the two kept their tryst properly under wraps till now.

3)    That the whole story linking Edwards to Hunter romantically is nonsense altogether, just as the two claim, and that even worse, it's possibly even a Clinton-orchestrated rumor being peddled by the Enquirer under the influence of one of the paper’s owners (Roger Altman) who happens to be a big Clinton supporter.

The mainstream media hasn't given any significant attention to this one yet, something I do find a bit curious given its inherently high sensational value, especially as Edwards pulls ahead of his two more high-profile rivals in Iowa. But what do you think? Is this evidence of restraint by journalists? A sensitivity to Edwards' cancer-stricken wife? An overall discomfort with the sordidness of the topic? A sense that the evidence is too thin? Irrelevant?

On another note, I’m curious to know if you suspect there could be some kernel of truth here. Yes, the Enquirer is the home of alien-birthing women, Bigfoot sightings and three-legged ice skaters, right? But then they’re also the venue in which the first pictures linking OJ to a pair of Bruno Magli’s were published, and where the first details about Monica’s stained blue polka-dot dress were revealed. Are we supposed to feel at all reassured by the notion that if they are making this up, it’s pretty elaborate stuff, and that they’ve picked quite a target -- a former trial attorney who could have the lawsuit of the century on his hands when the dust settles? I have to admit, I’m perplexed.

Finally…

It’s an old question, I know, but it keeps resurfacing: Do we care? In general, how do you feel about the ethical obligations of presidential hopefuls? Should we expect presidential wannabe’s to be morally superior to our next-door neighbors; to have better-calibrated moral compasses than the rest of us? To be unconditionally loyal to their spouses? Or is it high time we finally cave and admit that they too are human, and that the behavior of humans, however well-meaning, is often paradoxical, complicated, ambiguous, and well... sometimes just plain strange.

Or maybe it’s just that we don’t want our presidents and would-be presidents lying to us. Period. Even if it is about their private life. Maybe we want someone with the courage and foresight, and yes, even the brains, to either keep the things in their life they’d feel compelled to lie about to a minimum, or else opt for a simple, “It’s none of your business.”

What do you think? Inquiring minds want to know… I’d like to know too.


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ddain read my blog view my photos
Dec 28, 2007 | 4:07 PM

We care because many of our own lives are so boring, we have to read this garbage and debate it.

Call me cynical, but it's not all that newsworthy anymore when you read (true or not) that a politician may have had an affair. We may never know if this is true unless there's a blood test taken at some point. But in the meantime, it gives people something to talk about, and what's sad is that many of these people will consider this to be the truth, even though it has been proven to be that.

jlofan
Dec 28, 2007 | 5:48 PM

I think that it is very possible that John Edwards is a cheating lying democrat just like Clinton. Not that there arent plenty of cheating lying republicans too by the way. But if he cheated on his wife who has cancer and got this girl pregnant and then got this other guy to take the rap for it that would probably make him one of the biggest sleaze balls of all time and I do think the American people have a right to know about it.

tsnowboarder
Dec 28, 2007 | 6:10 PM

Remember the best presidents are womanizers. This is a good sign. I for one, am more confident that he can do the job now.

Seriously.... I don't know if this is true or not. Regardless, it is distracting us from important issues. The country and government has grown to the point where it takes all of our energies just to resolve one major issue. Fodder like this hurts us all in the long run. I, for one, care more about the War, Social Security, Farm Subsidies, my New Years Eve plans and a hundred other issues than the possible marital indiscretions of any of the candidates.

I'm not a supporter of Edwards but I would hope nothing like this hurts his campaign. The reason is that I could be wrong, maybe he is the right guy for the job. It would be a shame if the wrong person got into the White House; all because of something that irrelevant to the success and health of our country.

killerrabbit
Dec 28, 2007 | 6:33 PM

C'mon...the French have been doin' if for years. Saint Nic (Nick Sarcozy) ain't that much of a saint.

johntheman read my blog
Dec 28, 2007 | 6:50 PM

Okay so what Edwards had one affair when Bill Clinton had eight billion. If he got this woman pregnant the more power to him. What would be news is if he got Hillary pregnant.

dasvics read my blog view my photos
Dec 28, 2007 | 7:49 PM

I couldn't possibly care less who anyone has sex with, as long as they do what needs to be done.
I like these two comments:

"Remember the best presidents are womanizers. This is a good sign. I for one, am more confident that he can do the job now."

And the one above. Getting Hillary pregnant would raise eyebrows, but if it turns out that he's Jamie Lynn Spears baby's daddy, now that would be newsworthy :-)

janeypoostar
Dec 28, 2007 | 10:34 PM

Bill Clinton didn't have affairs, he had a hobby involving the genitalia of female staffers. Anyone who calls them affairs doesn't understand the distinction. Considering John Edwards spends $400 on his haircuts and is an ambulance chasing lawyer I wouldn't put anything past him. The Enquirer has a pretty good track record when it comes to politics and celebrity gossip. Their the ones who knew about Jamie Lynn first. And Clinton. And Jesse Jackson. And Gary Hart. If John Edwards really wasn't involved in any of this I bet he could prove it somehow. If he isn't bothering I think he's afraid of something. And frankly I don't want to see anybody even considered for the office of the president who is going to be distracted by a little cleavage. We can't afford to have someone who is going to take their attention off the issues and the country. We need a person with their priorities straight. But wait. This is a guy who is running for president when his wife is dying. DYING!!!!!!!! And still campaigning for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So he can try to fulfill his little boyhood dream of being in the oval office when he should know better that he doesn't have a shot in HELL. Oh well. Too late for straight priorities. Fox should figure out the truth about this whole mess and give it to us fair and balanced. HAHAHAHA.

craftyguy read my blog
Dec 28, 2007 | 11:47 PM

JFK was known AS JACK THE ZIPPER ..CLINTON was into fat chicks and cigars ..bottom line who the hell cares..what people do behind closed doors is their own business ..just because your in politics you are no longer a woman or a man..sure once your in public office you should set an example of morality ..some cant that dose not make them bad leaders just human beings..i would be the last one ever on earth to defend Clinton ..it wasn't about the affair or whatever it was it was about lying about it.you r a woman leelia..isn't that the same line every woman uses on her man after he was caught cheating..dishonesty dose not belong in politics anymore than it belongs in any other relationship that's based on trust..

mystere read my blog view my photos
Dec 29, 2007 | 12:32 PM

Leelila:

Kudos again! This is so true that rumors can spread like a wildfire on the internet with no one to be an arbitrator. I just hope that what someone is saying about John Edwards is not true, even though I cannot stand his politics. Personally, I don't want to see him in the Oval Office, but I absolutely hate dirty politicking even more. If these allegations are false, Edwards would be smart to take a paternity test to prove his opponents wrong. On the other hand, if he really did father the child, he should come out, instead of playing King David and Uriah...with a Samuel ready to expose him for his deeds.

Here's another thing to seriously consider: If a private business that gets government contracts such as Boeing need to do extensive background checks on employees before they do contract jobs, shouldn't the politicians also get scrutinized before being elected? After all, they are higher up than the people in the defense contracting industry...and need to be trusted even more with national security.

By the way: Happy New Year Leelila!

Mr. E from Orange County

Leelila_Strogov read my blog view my photos
Dec 29, 2007 | 5:58 PM

Jack the Zipper... funny... And you're right dasvics, for better or worse, those two comedians elicited a laugh from me too.

As for Clinton, okay, so maybe he's got his issues. But I've always felt that the only people he had an obligation to answer to about his sexual exploits were his wife and the targets of his exploits. If he made anyone angry, then they should have unleashed their wrath on him in private, whether spitting in his face, emptying a glass of wine on his lap, or throwing around some harsh words and a few desk souvenirs (those tend to be my preferred methods). But to have people drag him through the mud in public the way they did seems like overkill to me. Still, I know many who disagree with me on this one and understand their arguments. (Full disclosure, I have met Clinton on several occasions through certain charities I’m involved with, and happen to like the guy. I don't believe, though, that this diminishes my ability to view him critically.)

Similarly, when it comes to Edwards, while I'd personally refrain from making any moral judgments about him if the story were true (or even partially true), I'm not sure I could refrain from concluding that he must not want the presidency enough. After all, he's certainly bright enough to know the potential consequences of such a risk, wouldn’t you think?

In any case, craftguy, I think you hit the nail on the head: for most of the American people it's less about marital indiscretion than it is about dishonesty. To insult the collective intelligence of an entire nation by lying isn't exactly the way to b

Leelila_Strogov read my blog view my photos
Dec 29, 2007 | 6:01 PM

...uild a solid rapport.

And Mr. E, you make a great point. But let's face it, they do go through background checks... they’re just conducted by their opponents and the press! Thanks for your good wishes and right back at you.

Happy New Year to all!

dasvics read my blog view my photos
Dec 29, 2007 | 8:51 PM

"whether spitting in his face, emptying a glass of wine on his lap, or throwing around some harsh words and a few desk souvenirs (those tend to be my preferred methods)."

ha ha...wow. Leelila, I really like your style. nice. Didn't expect such an interesting comment from a professional reporter. I like you.

I totally agree with you on Clinton, whatever he did is between him, his wife, and whomever else was involved, and I wish it had been dealt with in private. The whole "impeachment" bs was completely unnecessary, not to mention incredibly embarrassing to us as a Nation. It was redundant and unbelievably ridiculous.

Happy New Year :-)

craftyguy read my blog
Dec 29, 2007 | 10:02 PM

so your saying its ok to lie to a grand jury??

dasvics read my blog view my photos
Dec 29, 2007 | 11:00 PM

No not all, I'm saying that asking him what he was doing to begin with, was unbelievably ridiculous. Him misleading (he didn't exactly lie) a grand jury was to be expected. I give him credit for having the class and tolerance to even put up with their insane and incredibly stupid questions. I would've told them all to BLEEP themselves. What a person does in private, is their personal business, and yes, even the President should be allowed to get sum.

:-)

johntheman read my blog
Dec 30, 2007 | 2:20 PM

Thats right. He should never have been asked. He was cornered into lying or misleading or whatever you call not telling the truth these days.

Jehovahswitness
Dec 30, 2007 | 2:25 PM

It amazes me that an individual, who happens to be a wanna-be president, is having an affair with a 43 year old woman. What kind of ethics does this person have? Whether or not the unborn child belongs to John Edwards, does not concern me. We will have to wait for the DNA test results. Either way, this child will be the result of a horrible act of adultery. The child will be the fruit of a sin. What kind of fate do its parents wanna give this child if he /she is doomed before being born?

craftyguy read my blog
Dec 30, 2007 | 10:06 PM

the child will be taken cared of better than most because it comes from money..don't sweat the kid or either parent..all this is just the usual yellow journalism that goes along with every election or any celebrity in the spotlight ..it made Jerry springer Oprah Winfrey and every other lowlife scumbags that leaches off other peoples misery for ratings and profit..

Leelila_Strogov read my blog view my photos
Dec 31, 2007 | 11:50 AM

thanks, dasvics. i appreciate that. i guess i'm a human being first, a reporter second... ;-)

i don't think lying to a grand jury is okay, and i don't think lying to people who have elected you, or who you hope will elect you, is okay either. but i also think that perhaps our laws need to change when it comes to the private lives of people in the public eye. (right now, as a public figure, one has little to no rights when it comes to privacy.) it's unrealistic to think that anyone can excel in every facet of his or her life. and at some point i think we ought to accept the fact that we are an inconsistent lot: great minds can be consumed with finding a cure for AIDS one minute and plotting ways to cheat the IRS the next; our favorite role models might be addicted to prescription drugs; and our most revered political leaders are often failed family men and women. that doesn't make them bad, it just makes them complicated... imperfect... human.

let's hope that whoever the father may be, that rielle hunter's baby will be just fine -- well fed, educated and loved -- and ushered into the world with a warm blanket and a kiss on the nose.

janeypoostar
Dec 31, 2007 | 2:28 PM

And a $400 haircut!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA.

craftyguy read my blog
Dec 31, 2007 | 7:04 PM

anytime someone is in the public eye they should be held up to scrutiny..look no further than Michael Jackson..yea hes a great singer and dancer but there is s good shot hes a child molester don't give a damn what the jury said..if you have children wouldn't you want to know that??politicians lives are no different if they hold no morals why and how can you trust them to make right decisions for the rest of us..anytime someone is put into a roll model they should be that roll model and if they chose not to be than we all have the right to know what they are about and if you still want to look up to those people its on you..

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Leelila Strogov is a general assignment reporter for Fox 11 News, specializing in investigative and feature reports.

Member Since: 9/25/2007