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Did Republicans kill the bail-out – as early news reports have suggested?

Here are the numbers behind the sound-bites, the finger-pointing: Republican members of congress supplied 58.3 percent of all the votes to kill the plan (133 out of 228 no votes) while Democrats provided 41.6 percent of the plan-killing votes (95 out of 228 no votes). In fact, it was a bi-partisan finger on the trigger.

Even those Democrats who voted for the plan did so while holding their noses.

Let’s hear what U.S. Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, said when it was his turn to address congress on the so-called Emergency Economic Stabilization Act, H.R. 3997.

“Mr. Chairman, I rise today in reluctant support of H.R. 3997,” Waxman said. “This is a Republican bill which must pass with bipartisan votes. Many Democrats don’t like it. Many Republicans are choking on it. But for now, it would be irresponsible to do nothing and I will vote for this bill….what we are voting on is the Bush bailout plan.”

“I would have preferred that we take a different approach. Nobel Prize economists have recommended alternative approaches….But the Bush Administration has been adamant that Congress adopt its approach. They have steadfastly resisted considering other options to protect the taxpayer.”

But then Waxman also praised fellow Democrat, U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Boston, for improving the plan with amendments – without mentioning what they were.

If the bailout later failed to pull the economy out of its doldrums, Waxman could say he only voted for it because it was forced down his throat by a stubborn Bush administration while better options were ignored.

On the other hand, if the bailout (providing, of course, that it was approved) did succeed in re-booting the economy, Waxman could say he voted for it and that fellow Democrat Frank made the entire plan workable.

In other words, Waxman had hedged his bets so he was blameless if the bailout failed, victorious if it succeeded.

Real moral victories are hard to find anywhere in this rubble however.

Just look at this perverse element of the proposed (and now failed) bailout: I'm talking about a provision under which the government would have the option of limiting the pay of future executives (of faltering financial institutions that participate in the bailout) who might actually do the hard work of turning around their companies. But the government would not - could not - reduce or eliminate the compensation agreements (aka "golden parachutes") for those past or existing executives who steered their companies into the reckless lending and investment decisions now tearing our economy apart.

In other words, we'd limit the pay incentives for good guys but let the bad guys who created the mess keep their ill-gotten gains? You gotta love it. When are the bad guys ever going to pay...

One last thought: if John McCain's debate performance last Friday wasn't enough to sink his candidacy, today's House vote - as it is initially being widely portrayed in the media - should deliver the final coup de grace. That message: dear voters, Republicans killed the bailout, crushed your 401(K) investment program , all because GOP lawmakers were outraged that House speaker Nancy Pelosi, as the vote was about to be taken, attacked the Bush administration, blaming its "right-wing ideology" for the economic mess. But how does that explain all the Democrats voting against the bailout?

Here's another example: the New York Times lead editorial last Sunday  blamed the Bush administration's hostility to regulation for our mess, citing three votes in congress that stripped away regulatory protections:

"Indeed, it was in the Bush years that antiregulation and deregulation found full expression, fueled by an ideology that markets know best, government hampers markets, and problems will magically fix themselves. The nation is now painfully relearning that the opposite is true."

Those key votes, the Times editorialized, were in 1995, 1999 and 2000.

Excuse me for bringing up an inconvenient truth: George Bush did not take office until January, 2001. Now that does not mean we should let Bush off the hook for failing to stem the tide of bad loans being made in the name of expanding homeownership to everyone in sight. But it does leave us wondering where Bill Clinton - our nation's president from Jan. 1993 to Jan. 2001 - was when those three votes were taken....granted Republicans held majorities in congress during those years but what were the vote breakdowns, Republican/Democrat, on those measures?

In other words, beware of easy, politically-driven explanations for what's going on. There's plenty of blame to go around.

This is the link to the aforementioned NYT editorial:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/opinion/28sun
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craftyguy read my blog
Sep 29, 2008 | 9:30 PM

yes everyone is to blame for this everyone but the Americans who didn't participate in the great get rich quick real estate/stock market scam and those are the ones who know have to pay for this mess..I say screw them all ..the stock market needs to fall to level itself out that was thrown out of whack with day traders who knew nothing about the market ..those are the same morons who bought real estate with no knowledge of how it works and thought the bubble would never burst..I for one cant stand Nancy Pelosi but kudos to her if republicans used her as an excuse not to sign the bill after her stupid speech throwing politics into the mix ..there is no need for a bail out bill we just need for things to get to where they are supposed to be ..throwing good money after bad has always been a stupid idea ..talk about lipstick on a pig ..

marv read my blog view my photos
Sep 29, 2008 | 10:00 PM

john, i haven't a clue what happens if WE don't give loans to wall street. my hand is on my tool all day long. if the banks stop lending to me, AL FRANKIN, then i think i will seek a position in the McCain administration. Look at things from marv's perspective... we knew who the borrowers were in the sub mortgages (those which FNMA would not accept.) but as always happens, we were packaging diversified types of mortgage backed securities. these funds traded between Q and R. that was the market for shares of these funds. it's not like Marvin Drysdale from Los Angeles was asked his opinion of the riskiness of these packages. i am justa salesman. my boss tony roma told us to sell the deal. so i did. i made goood money. i partied out every weekend with my buds... we snorted coke, invited over several hookers, banged and gave each of them 500 bucks so they could go out and get breakfast at Norms. i had no clue the slices of the commingled bonds would go down in value. if i had been smart i would not have sold these securitized bonds to my clients. who knew what was going to happen tomorrow? so here were are, my clients have lost 80% and i am paranoid that guido and sally are going to threaten my kids if i do no make them whoe. i am scared and i don't know what to do. please help john.

John_Schwada read my blog view my photos
Sep 29, 2008 | 11:09 PM

oh, marv - get a grip. read thoreau's "self-reliance", join the peace corps, divorce your wife, sell your kids to a white slaver, eat pistachios, drink heavily....from the grapes of wrath...and, and...tell guido to take a flying leap into jimmy hoffa's acid-filled barrel. mind your p's and q's, have your loved ones remove your shoelaces and belt, keep repeating ben franklin sayings (e.g. early to bed, early to rise...a stitch in time saves nine, etc.), read shakespeare's hamlet - backwards...what the hell do i know. i'm not a psychiatrist. houdini is not my middle name.

John_Schwada read my blog view my photos
Sep 29, 2008 | 11:11 PM

and marv - when in doubt, seek help from dr. tanqueray.

John_Schwada read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2008 | 11:14 AM

mccain - captain of the u.s.s. catastrophe - is now running a telling political ad (not that it will do him any good) that includes bill clinton doing a mea culpa. the ad shows a TV interview clip of clinton making apologetic noises, expressing his regrets that he and many of his fellow democrats let fannie mae and freddie mac run wild.

meantime, on youtube, fascinating footage from congressional hearing where you can see u.s. rep. maxine waters (yes, our very own maxine waters) and several other congressmembers in 2005 or 2006 (along with the ever-present and mostly-wrong barney frank) warning regulators to back off on trying to put the brakes on fannie mae...This hearing was congress' reaction to the 390-page investigation by the oversight agency that found fannie was a train-wreck, loaded with risky loans, driven by engineers (franklin raines, in particular) who were high on the giant cash bonuses they were making running this crazy enterprise. unbelievable.

DMMickie read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2008 | 6:08 PM

"seek help from dr. tanqueray."
Schwada- Pathetic.

-NO! to the bail out of Wall Street fat cats and investors like you! This HORRIBLE PLAN will cause the US dollar to plummet and commodities prices to go even higher, and there is no oversight of the money by congress. Check out the article below. Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neil and Greenspan wanted to raise interest rates to slow down the housing boom years ago and BUSH would not let them. Read Ron Suskindk's book, " The Price of Loyalty". The Bush government kept interest rates at historically low rates long after the US economy recovered from the 2000 Tech Crash. Fueling the out of control housing market.
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Bailout is wrong, wrong, wrong
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJo
urnal/lets-not-rush-to-blow-700-billion-dollars.aspx

John_Schwada read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2008 | 11:03 PM

dmmickie: you've gone over to the dark side, joined the republicans who make up the majority of the bailout-doubters? a giant flip-flop?

DMMickie read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2008 | 7:45 PM

"I will never join YOU." Repubs have only a small majority against the bail out. The protest against the bail out is grass roots and involves people from both parties. Listen to what Dennis Kusinich is saying. He voted against the bailout. He is right on. Wall Street already has a back up plan to fund their own rescue. Let them fix this mess. But face it Schwada we are dammed either way, bail out or no bail out. Papering over the problem will only delay the inevitable. Have heard some analysts predict an economic collapse just a few years after the bailout. Better to cut the diseased limb off now and learn to live with it. Rebuild a new Wall Street and endure the hardships for a few years. Conservatives endure a hardship, can you handle that? So how much money have you lost so far?

DfDeportation read my blog view my photos
Oct 4, 2008 | 10:38 AM

DM,

Which limb? The one diseased with the fungus of "book-cooking" allowing CEO's to justify their absorbent bonuses or the one with the fungus of loaning money for mortgages to Illegal Aliens so the hipanic real estate agents could claim those commissions from sales every time they get a house "flipped"? Now it'll be business as usual till the next bailout. Maybe they're one and the same huh? All in the name of HOME OWNERSHIP FOR MINORITIES AND THE POOOOOOOOOHHHHHHWWWEEEERRR...

DMMickie read my blog view my photos
Oct 9, 2008 | 12:25 AM

Schwada- the European markets are crashing, and Russia, and Asia. The Brazilian too. We are living in interesting times. Honestly, I hope I am wrong.

DF: you are delusional. please seek therapy before you hurt someone. So much rage...

John_Schwada read my blog view my photos
Oct 14, 2008 | 12:28 AM

marcus mabry, international bus. editor, NYT, was quoted by CNN as saying that the vote to support the 1999 deregulation reform legislation was supported by 95 U.S. senators, nearly unanimously approved by the House of Representatives as well - and signed into law by bill clinton. there was irony in all this: the CNN story that prompted mabry's remarks was holding up former sen. phil gramm of texas as one of the "10 most wanted culprits" to blame for our current economic situation. gramm, a republican, spearheaded this dereg reform legislation. so let's get it straight: phil gramm led clinton and hoards of innocent democrats over the cliff....

DMMickie read my blog view my photos
Oct 15, 2008 | 2:52 PM

Schwada: Congress was controled by the Republicans at that time. Remember? Clinton was an advocate for free trade but what has currently happened here is different. Democrats are totally to blame? Check out Bloomberg Televison's interview with economist Nouriel Roubini. He predicted this crisis in 2006. Says the Bush Administration was too Laissez-faire.
-http://media2.bloomberg.com/cache/vDHgWim6Nh8U.asf

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That's me, Nov. 1, 1989, at the Herald-Examiner bureau, LA City Hall...a long-time ago. As a reporter at Fox 11 News, I have covered national political conventions, presidential impeachment hearings and gubernatorial recall campaigns. I've done double-duty as an investigative reporter and, in this capacity, won Golden Mike and Emmy awards. I also have labored in the newspaper biz: LA Herald-Examiner, the LA Times, the San Diego Union, the Arizona Republic and the Riverside Press-Enterprise. I went to UC Berkeley and learned to respect the sharpshooting ability of Alameda County's "blue-meanies" who could hit protesters in the derriere with buckshot from 50 paces. I'm now looking for a wealthy benefactor who will donate their villa in Spain to me and my family.

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