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Greeting Bloogers

I recieved an e-mail to a link that provides clips from Mc Cain's spirtual leader Rod Parsley's sermons. In the sermon it heis expressing his views on the Muslim religion. Please view and I curious to see what you have to say about it. Thanks for taking the time for viewing my blog. Have a Marvellous Monday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXZbIGJrDkg

 

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SeniorCitizen view my photos
Jun 2, 2008 | 5:03 PM

McCain is NOT A MEMBER OF ROD PARSLEYS CHURCH. If you are trying to put McCain in the same boat as Obama FORGET IT - McCain did not sit in his church for 20 years listening to racial hate remarks. Parsley endorsed McCain. Even Oprah was smart enough to get out of Obama's church but she done it years ago - I guess she is a fast learner not like Obama he has to be pretty slow for it to take him 20 years to learn something.

IT-Pro view my photos
Jun 2, 2008 | 6:12 PM

You are correct Senior, McCain did not sit around for 20 years listening to racial remarks and supporting the Pastor. In regards to this situation, you can not put Obama and McCain in the same boat. IMPOSSIBLE.

My_Thoughts_Opinions read my blog
Jun 2, 2008 | 9:25 PM

SeniorCitizen

You’re right, there is no way McCain did what Obama has done.

Obama only left the church because of bad press, not because he doesn’t believe the same racial hatred as the pastors.

He made the statement "It's clear that now that I am a candidate for president, every time something is said in the church by anyone associated with Trinity, including guest pastors, the remarks will be imputed to me, even if they totally conflict with my long-held views, statements and principles," so I feel if a person stays in a church for that many years he/she had to hear that type of sermon many times and he/she must feel the same way. Sounds to me like he would stay with the church if he wasn’t running for President and he has the same kind of conviction as the pastors.

People will say and do anything to become the president and we all know that, but to be the first Black president is apt to say or do what ever they can to win the election, if not even more.

Fame1913 read my blog view my photos
Jun 3, 2008 | 4:41 PM

First of all, I am not trying to lump McCain into any category. I guess it is a coincidence these types of spirtual leaders are endorsing McCain as well.It is unfortuanate that you feel the way you feel see you in November. Have a blessed day.

While news media have focused on Barack Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright, little attention has been paid to the endorsement of Republican presidential candidate John McCain by controversial Texas televangelist John Hagee. Hagee has voiced extreme anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish and anti-homosexual views. In a September 2006 interview on National Public Radio, Hagee reaffirmed his view that Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment against New Orleans for hosting a homosexual parade. Hagee has also said that the Jews brought the Holocaust upon themselves by "turning away from the true God." He referred to Catholicism as a "false cult," and said the religion contributed to Hitler's anti-semitic views. When Hagee endorsed him, McCain said he was "proud" to have the pastor's support. More recently, McCain has been working to distance himself from Hagee's inflammatory comments.

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My_Thoughts_Opinions read my blog
Jun 3, 2008 | 5:21 PM

Fame1913

Once again, Hagee is not his pastor and McCain did not sit in a church for 20 years that preaches that type of hatred. He took Hagee endorsement without knowing the way he preached hatred. As soon as he found out, he dropped his endorsement.

Unlike Obama, who stayed with the church after the first issue came up about his pastor ( If a person goes to a church for 20 years, there is no way he did not hear that type of sermon before). He is just dropping the church in order to run for the presidencies without the church issues getting in the way and I find that as him being just like his pastor, only he is hiding his true thoughts via the election.

Fame1913 read my blog view my photos
Jun 3, 2008 | 6:09 PM

Thanks for the reply it is helpful as I am learning to view things from other prospectives. I don't want to get into a heated debate. Thanks again have a good day.

fox2fan4weather read my blog
Jun 4, 2008 | 11:32 AM

Fame

I can say that much of the animosity that is created over the issue is simply being created as a scare tactic.

A close friend of mine who is in Germany still serving in our military (God bless her) uses the same judgment. She attempts to also portray Obama as being Muslim, not putting his hand on his heart during the National Anthem and refusing to pledge the flag. She's still stuck in a world of imagination like some of the rest them in the mediacentric universe.

If people take the time to find real evidence, there is bad and good on everyone's part. There's no reason to tarnish a name for something because you simply don't have some of the same beliefs or refuse to accept some issues for what they are. Despite many people's refusal to accept their own claims of politicians always being the bad political character, some of these individuals making these claims are bad characters themselves.

I have been a member of the Catholic church for my entire life. However, I find some things hard to believe. I don't practice my religion and have since come up with my own values and faith. A church never has a 100% reflection of who you truly are. Have you ever heard a person distinctly talk about church and morals, yet they go to the bar every other night after work and come home drunk to their wife and kids? Sadly, there's more of that than many seize to recognize. It's fake practice.

What I find more ironic....is that my friend gets extremely confronting when we all talk politics. She acts as if she's secure in her decision, but she is still unwilling to dis

fox2fan4weather read my blog
Jun 4, 2008 | 11:33 AM

What I find more ironic....is that my friend gets extremely confronting when we all talk politics. She acts as if she's secure in her decision, but she is still unwilling to discuss she her views. I find it a weak point.

So, you just have to research and do what's best for you come November.

right-moves read my blog
Jun 5, 2008 | 11:09 PM

fox2fan...you are very uninformed and biased.

fox2fan4weather read my blog
Jun 6, 2008 | 6:45 AM

Right-moves....Where is your support for your comment. It seems you have the same motivation as the rest of them. Keep assuring yourself yourself that your always "right".

If you ask me, the Rep. reaction makes a Dem. victory in November ever more clear. Have you ever heard of the Quadrenial Themes?

1) Party in power points with pride
2) Party out of power points with alarm
3) If the wrong party gets elected, catasphre is inevitable
4) Only the 1864 election may have been the only election to shake the solidity of this country

Well, I've only see Rep. pointing with a lot of alarm. A Dem. hasn't even been elected yet and Rep. are kind of going against one of those themes already.

I may be bias, just a little, but much less uninformed. Get an education.

fox2fan4weather read my blog
Jun 6, 2008 | 7:13 AM

I'm sorry. I did return because my final line was a bit out of line. I do have to admit that it undeserved.

However, I just want you to back up your state right-moves. There's not way you can make a statement such as you did and expect anyone to just take it for what it is. It's not good debate.

I will admit that I'm a bit biased. I've already chosen my favorite to win the most power job in the world. On the other hand, I don't feel uninformed.

Did you read up on the embassy proposal they have in Iraq? Hmmmmm. Might want to do so. I've been there and don't agree with giving more to a government that has been slacking for so long, even after we have pumped money into them and have tried to rebuild them. They're slacking. Although these processes aren't short, they show little motivation to progress even with the supposed success of the surge.

Fame1913 read my blog view my photos
Jun 6, 2008 | 10:26 AM

FoxFan

I love the educated mind. :)

Fame

right-moves read my blog
Jun 6, 2008 | 11:08 AM

Support for my statement is what you write.

And you admit to being biased.

Fame...You wouldn't know an educated mind if you had one!

fbca7 read my blog
Jun 6, 2008 | 1:05 PM

It's not about religion...it's about hate..whether Rev Wright or Rev Hagee....they are obviously using their religion to justify their political views of life. I have religious views and principles....they guide my vote, my daily life and how I treat people..they don't make me hate. No religion should make you hate.

Fame1913 read my blog view my photos
Jun 6, 2008 | 2:34 PM

I agree with you fbca7

Right-Moves: It is unfortunate that you have to lash out with comments of disrespect. These comments only validate your lack of education as well as lack of respect for others with opposing views. I leave you with this.

Minds are like parachutes. They work best when they are open.

Work with me right moves-I am trying to work with you. Carpe Diem

fox2fan4weather read my blog
Jun 7, 2008 | 4:35 PM

Fame

Thanks for the kind comment. I choose who I did, because it's best for my preferences. However, I would never say that's it's best for you or even persuade to vote the way I would.

Right moves will never work with you. He only has the nerve to make assumptions and point a finger, but doesn't have the smarts to choose a different name to hide his obvious, one-sided views.

In order to ever make and educated decision, you must always look at both sides. At least I'm saying that you should base your decisions off what you think is best, unlike something right-moves might intend. He's in it for himself and the party he favors.

I'm sure if I didn't have my bio posted, he's make other claims, too.

And directly to you right-moves....
I admit being biased because I know I've made my decision. But did I tell Fame to go that route? No. You're just another "right" winger wanna be who neither has the attitude or will to make this a better place to live. Your comments are dreadful and I wouldn't tolerate a president with any relation to your character.

All you have are judgmental assumptions and poor support.

fox2fan4weather read my blog
Jun 7, 2008 | 4:41 PM

To add on to what I just said:

right-moves, two lines of critical wording is not deemed anything close to evidence. It seems that your motives for tarnishing a name are as close to Rush Limbaugh's relationship with narcotics.

One thing I thing we can all combat here, is bad taste and ill informed comments.

Fame, keep up the hard research on your cadidates and may the best man win in November. If it's McCain, I'll support him. If it's Barack, I'll support him, too.

No American can claim they are American and hope that their country goes to ruins if a political official they are unfavorable with gets in office. That's disgusting to me. Right moves is one of those people.

SeniorCitizen view my photos
Jun 8, 2008 | 10:55 AM

fox2fan your friend in service has every right to fear Obama. He does not have the experience to be Commander In Chief of our Armed Services. He has no idea what their functions are. You are not seeing what your friend has seen and is involved with. I have a fear of Obama because of his ISSUES - HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY. I live in Illinois and he has taxed this state so bad that we go to Missouri it purchase our gas. His record on voting SUCKS - you can not win with a "PRESENT" vote. That tells me he does not know what is going on in the real world. Another thing I have a problem with is the fact that he sat and listened for 20 years to a Rev preach HATE and that is unacceptable. The fact that his wife made comments that agreed with the Rev and Obama has said NOTHING - makes me wonder what that church is worshiping. Is it really God????? I do not believe God would approve of this kind of actions. God said love your neighbors as yourself and that is not being preached in that church.

fox2fan4weather read my blog
Jun 8, 2008 | 12:41 PM

Senior-
I really do like the way you go about things. You actually give some type of solid word to back your opinion. However, this is something that right-moves has to do himself. Have you viewed right-moves blogs? I just love how everyone speaks against this "hate" they see from Obama's Rev., but then they log onto this blog site and spread as much hate themselves. Hypocrites!

I wasn't alive in the 1960's to experience the civil rights movement, but our regression in 2008 is pathetic. It may be the youngest Americans who are more blind to color and that is a great thing to me. I would be embarrassed to be a person in my middle ages or older.

When this campaign first started and even now, the excuse many middle aged women/men have for not voting for Obama is not only sex of the candidate, but also race. There are countless women I've spoken to (including family members) whose reason for not favoring Obama (but declaring Democratic) was, "I think it's about time a women was voted into office." Or, "I don't think America is ready for a black president." Fools; not for their favorite candidate, but for their reasoning.

fox2fan4weather read my blog
Jun 8, 2008 | 12:52 PM

(cont'd)
The other argument I love is how people say that Obama is too young and inexperienced. That may be the most valid argument people have against him. But let me remind you.....

This country was based on a history of inexperience. When we fought the Revolutionary War against Britain, this country only had inexperience to claim. We were a bunch of farmers and ranchers who were trying to profit from the fertility of the land and nothing more. George Washington was first a colonel who was automatically nominated to General of the first Continental Army. At that time, it was unsure we even had a defined Army.

Later, he became president under a very volatile congress, which could never seem to come to terms with one another on many issues. John Adams was the second president who was thought to favor the parliament of Great Britain. Many thought we'd go back to our old ways because of his inexperience. We also believed that the confrontation between him and Thomas Jefferson would create our first Civil War.

Well, much of what we "thought" never happened. We established a country off this "inexperience" and new ideas. We went on to fight another war in 1812 to completely declare our independence and defeated the Britons once again. The combined effort of congress, which was once thought to be a calamity, completed a task that was viewed as insurmountable.

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I love the STL and Fox 2.I am a reporter "wannabe"! I have lived in St. Louis, MO all my life. I am a graduate of Missouri State University in Springfield,MO ...GO BEARS!!!!! and I am currently pursing my M.Ed in Education. Mostly importantly, I am blessed... I am happly wed and have a beautiful little girl that is appoaching her terrible twos. I love dabbling in web design, photography, and fictional writing in my spare time. I love the outdoors and autumn is my favorite season:)

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