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by Charles_Jaco from St. Louis

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In a follow-up to the last post about the Internet and growing American illiteracy, you might enjoy the following from George Mason University professor Rick Shenkman, founder of the History News Network and author of  Just How Stupid Are We?: Facing the Truth About the American Voter:

 I do not wish to engage in a debate about the Iraq War. But the thought of planting a largely Christian army in the middle of the Muslim Middle East over the opposition of most countries in the region, when put as I have just put it, sounds daft. Why did it not ring bells of alarm to Americans in 2003 and after, especially as it became clear that our troops would be staying a long time and that no quick victory was possible? It did not because the administration saw to it that the issue was framed differently. We weren’t planting an army. We were spreading God’s miraculous gift of freedom to a benighted people very much in need of America’s missionary help. It was the triumph of myth over logic.

Why were Americans so susceptible to myth? Foreign policy specialists don't usually spend a lot of time reflecting on this question. They should. It's the key to what often goes wrong when foreign policy issues become the subject of public debate.

The answer is, I'm afraid, simple. Myths count more than facts in these debates because Americans don't know many facts and don't care to take the time to learn them. Unlike subjects with which they have first-hand experience--think gas prices--matters related to foreign countries are both exotic and incomprehensible to most Americans. This leaves them sitting ducks for wily pols who want to take advantage of their ignorance by playing on fear and patriotism.

The extent of Americans' ignorance is underestimated. To take one example that will give you an idea of the vast ignorance with which policy makers must come to terms: A majority of Americans do not know that it was their own country which dropped the atomic bomb.

Not all is grim. On the positive side, Americans did not make wholly irrational demands of their leaders after 9/11. American Muslims were not rounded up and sent to concentration camps after 9/11 (as Japanese-Americans were after Pearl Harbor). Mosques were not closed down. Nuclear weapons were not employed against our perceived enemies. And nobody was lynched. Given what has happened in American history any one of these responses or all of them might have been anticipated. That none occurred and that nothing like them occurred is worth noting.

But polls indicate that a significant segment of the American public was susceptible to wild conspiracy theories. A Scripps-Howard poll in 2006 found that 36 percent believe that it is “very likely” or “somewhat likely” that U.S. officials either allowed the attack to take place or were involved it.

Americans do not have a monopoly on conspiracy thinking. Nineteen percent of Germans said in a 2004 poll that 9/11 was the work of the CIA and Israel’s Mossad. The French turned Thierry Meyssan’s book The Appalling Fraud into a best-seller, despite the absence of evidence for its chief and crazy claim: that the Pentagon attacked itself on 9/11 with a cruise missile. Millions of Muslims around the world persist in believing that Jews were given advance warning of the attack on the World Trade Center.

But instead of the thoughtful debate we should by rights have had in this country, we settled for slogans:

  • We must fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here
  • The Global War on Terror (GWOT)
  • Mission Accomplished
  • You are either with us or with the terrorists
  • The axis of evil

To be sure the public eventually turned against Mr. Bush's war in Iraq. The one thing the public usually gets is success and failure. And Mr. Bush's war has been a spectacular failure when judged against all of the many measures by which he has asked us to judge it.

As we head into the fall campaign and listen to the debates about the war we should keep in mind the limits of public opinion. If we don't begin to address the problem of gross public ignorance there will be more Iraqs.

One poll finding we should all keep in mind is this, as I have been reminding HNN readers the past few weeks. Even after the 9/11 Commission reported that there was no connection between Saddam Hussein and the Sept. 11 attack 50 percent of the country persisted in believing there was. The implications of this are mind boggling.

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downtowner read my blog
Jul 8, 2008 | 9:27 PM

joc`O
One thing is certain to get the source of the stupidity,one needs only to read about in the paper or listen to broadcast Media. It wasn`t
the poor common working man who sat around all day arguing if the world was flat, it was your every day educated genuis, the dumb common man care less. So get your friends togethers and argue how flat this article is...

mancillas read my blog
Jul 10, 2008 | 2:41 AM

Many of us have our sons out there fighting for our freedom. How dare anyone second guess this war! We have not had a "9/11" since we stood our ground! God bless our troops for keeping our country safe from harm!! And, damn anyone that thinks that our kids are out there fighting for no reason!!!

bill01 read my blog
Jul 10, 2008 | 6:24 AM

I don't even know where to start on this one. This article was written by a history professor who would lead you to think we didn't have a predominately christian army in that area until 2003. Wrong!! We've been there in force since 1991. Second, to start off by saying "I don't wish to get in a debate about the Iraq war" and then ramble on about it for 90% of the article, when put as I just put it, sounds daft. Saying we didn't use nuclear weapons? Again, a history professor should know that we used the atomic bombs to prevent a land invasion of Japan which would have cost an estimated 1 million allied lives and may not have been successful at the end. And as for calling this Mr Bush's war, since we have been there for the 17 or so years I mentioned earlier, through both republican and democrat presidents, I would say it is America's war. It sounds to me this guy needs to get off his academic butt and go to iraq and get some truth instead of living in the main stream media's little black hole. Mancillas, tell you son that I said thank you for what he's doing. From one vet to another.

bill01 read my blog
Jul 10, 2008 | 6:25 AM

Sorry. When I said "we didn't use nuclear weapons" I should have added "this time"

WebsterGroves read my blog view my photos
Jul 10, 2008 | 11:22 AM

There were many of us who spoke out against the folly of this war in 2003. We were called "traitors" and told that we hated America and were "rooting for the terrorists." It was jingoism at its worst.

Many of us have our sons out there fighting for our freedom. How dare anyone second guess this war!

Actually, that's what makes it so important to examine this war and the reasons we went there in the first place. Are you saying it's better to march forward in ignorance and continue to put our loved ones in harm's way rather than have an honest, albeit painful, look at this war? It's hard to think of a more important decision a president will make than taking a nation to war. Of course it should be examined closely and to do so is not a slight to the troops - that is one of most egregiously false arguments that is continuously put forth.

The war is definitely Bush's Folly. How tragic that close to 4,000 of our troops gave their lives for his arrogance. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians.

It is not coincidental that a large majority of Bush supporters and Fox News Network viewers (I make a big distinction between the network news and the local news) continually have the wrong information and believe things that are just not true.

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That i

WebsterGroves read my blog view my photos
Jul 10, 2008 | 11:23 AM

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany.
That is understood.

But it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along to fight a war, ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy.

All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
-- Hermann Goering

frenchmills read my blog view my photos
Jul 29, 2008 | 12:45 PM

Being the greatest power in the world, we are a provincial people. People hardly see anything outside their own narrow world. Suburbanites don't know what's happening in the core of cities; city dwellers don't have an idea what suburbia is about. We have hundreds of different worlds within our own borders.

As a country, we don't see ourselves as others see us; only as the government portrays us. News media, far from being liberal, or the Fourth Estate that they should be, seem to mirror the government view, airing very little information outside of that provided by the government. News has become "puff pieces" -- pap, easily digestible by the masses; and any view contrary to what most people see is immediately suspect. Hard news is hardly accessible. CNN, once the bastion of straight, basic journalism, has now become a mix of Entertainment Tonight and the Police Gazette, with a little Jerry Springer thrown in for good measure.
Is it any wonder people are so misinformed? Those responsible for informing have failed in their duty.

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