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Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.

That’s too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:

* in the country legally;

* have the means to sustain themselves economically;

* not destined to be burdens on society;

* of economic and social benefit to society;

* of good character and have no criminal records; and

* contributors to the general well-being of the nation.

The law also ensures that:

* immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;

* foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;

* foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;

* foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;

* foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;

* those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.

Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens — and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Poblacion, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country’s immigration policy.

It is an interesting law — and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico. If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.

We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let’s look at Mexico’s main immigration law. Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

* Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)

* Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)

* Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)

* The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)

Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

* Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)

* A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

* A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

* Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)

* Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

* Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

* Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)

* Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico — such as working without a permit — can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

* “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123)

* Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)

* Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported. (Article 126)

Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

* A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)

* Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico’s immigration practices versus its American immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government’s agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

Let’s call Mexico’s bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let’s propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico’s own law as a model.

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dasvics read my blog view my photos
Jan 22, 2008 | 12:55 PM

What's the difference between Mexico's and the laws in the United States? Are they not exactly the same? So what if someone expresses their views if they’re here legally? You got issues. Do they have to be white as well? omg.

You're problem is, you obviously don't make enough money to pay your share in taxes and live comfortably. So the fact that some people need help, whether legal or illegal, pisses you off. But that's your problem. Get over it. Find a better job that pays you enough so you can live comfortably and pay your share in taxes. My husband works for a casino, so he really gets taxed! Especially on overtime and bonuses. We don't complain. To each his own. If someone needs help, so be it. You must be an incredibly greedy and selfish person.
srsly, what is your problem?

DOUG-L-B read my blog
Jan 22, 2008 | 1:30 PM

the difference is that mexico actually can enforce the law without being labeled as racists.
dasvics,i dont think like the rest of these folks,but i have Q.for you.
DO YOU AGREE THAT THE FLOW OF IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE CONTROLED,NOT STOPPED OR DEPORTED BUT CONTROLED AND MONITERED?
THAT IS NOT A BIGOTED Q.BUT I CAN NEVER SEEM TO GET A ANSWER.

dasvics read my blog view my photos
Jan 22, 2008 | 2:22 PM

Omg, if I label someone a racist, it’s not because they want to enforce our laws, it’s because they’re writing comments that truly are racist! For you to insinuate that I have a problem with law enforcement is insulting.

If I don’t answer your question its because I’ve answered it several times before and I’m tired of it. But here it goes for the last time.

I think it’s fine to “control immigration” as you put it. And I strongly believe in and support laws that monitor everyone who enters. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s for our own good and safety. Some of you refuse to accept the fact that there’s a difference between, enforcing laws, and sounding like ignorant racists. But you know what? That’s your problem, don’t try to put in on me. If you can’t figure it out or don’t want to admit it, fine, but it what it is. Period.

DOUG-L-B read my blog
Jan 22, 2008 | 3:58 PM

thank you for your answer.
your right there is a difference between sounding like a ignorant rascist and enforcing our laws.most people do acceptthat fact,your problem is that you wont admit that we have an immigration problem .
the laws are not being enforced,that is why SOME people are angry not because of some individual hate towards any one race,although much of the stuff here is fueled by hate.

Hotmamajama read my blog view my photos
Jan 22, 2008 | 11:23 PM

"My husband works for a casino, so he really gets taxed! Especially on overtime and bonuses. We don't complain".


Liar....

What happened to his "cop" job, or is he your husband or your boyfriend, huh?

What's that? Oh yeah, another lie!
.

DfDeportation read my blog view my photos
Jan 22, 2008 | 11:44 PM

So DOUG-L-B,

Are you in support of deporting Illegsl Aliens, no matter where they are from?

P.S. Ted Hayes and Marvin Stewart are not IGNORANT RACISTS!!! People that call other people those kinds of names, either have no grasp of the facts or laws, or they don't really want to enforce our laws like they claim to.

DfDeportation read my blog view my photos
Jan 22, 2008 | 11:45 PM

CC,

You stand fast dude. We want our laws enforced, just like Cesar Chavez did back on the 60's. My how the UFW has strayed...

dasvics read my blog view my photos
Jan 22, 2008 | 11:53 PM

I don't need to lie. I said he's in the process of getting into a department, which takes a while. And he’s my husband , not that it makes any difference if he was my boyfriend. I said he works with retired P.O., but you just want to make stuff up and talk about me, instead of the issues because you have nothing valid to say. That's obvious. Anything else about my personal absolutely wonderful life you want to talk about? Don’t be so jealous, it’s so unattractive :-)

JQPublix read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 2:37 AM

I've never understood the gambleing thing. If you have the money the government doesn't pry from you concerning either investing in stocks or gambleing, which tax rate are you more responsible more?

Doesn't gambling fuel terrorism?

dasvics read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 11:11 AM

LOL!

oh that's rich. I have no idea, how it works, but there's more taxes taken for ot, and bonuses in comparison to regular pay. Maybe it's like that for all businesses. I don't know. So the Native American's are now responsible for terrorism? LMAO! Go tell them that, no better yet, report them to Homeland Security. Hurry, before it's too late! ha ha...

LOL

dasvics read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 11:14 AM

Do your conspiracy thearies and paranoia ever end?

Y'all are fans of Rosie O'Donnel dont you?

C'mon, admit it.....
kelli carpenter & rosie o donnel

dasvics read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 11:17 AM

ha ha! Oh crap, I can't talk , and type!!! LOL

Let me try that again:

Do your conspiracy theories and paranoia ever end? Or do they get worse as you get older?

JQPublix read my blog view my photos
Jan 24, 2008 | 4:11 AM

"Maybe it's like that for all businesses. I don't know. So the Native American's are now responsible for terrorism?"

Obviously it is not that way for all businesses.

You want to do a comparison of the state of California before and after gambling was legalized by the state? Make sure to include the tax revenues and expenditures for each year. The state's taxes are still increasing, the costs are being passed on to consumers even in casinos.

I am part Cherokee and I would never presume to take part in taking money from them. They have suffered enough. So are you still laughing?

dasvics read my blog view my photos
Jan 25, 2008 | 3:16 AM

yes.

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