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Two years of a foreign language'
One year of chemistry
One year of an art or music class
Four years of gym


No-its not a random list-its part of my requirements. That is, my requirements to graduate highschool.

They bombard us with "essential and crucial" courses, yet, when we get out of school, few of us will ever plot electrons on it's cloud nor speak cohesively in spanish or latin. Heck, we rarely will make a clay pot, beat on a drum, or give one hoot about the proper way to square dance.

Yet-we are REQUIRED to take these courses..... as some group of men and women on our school board decided it was the things we need.


Now to break this up-


What we really need to learn about for graduation is made of dull-green colored sheet of cotton.


Some people might call it MONEY.

If there is one thing besides air and water that every adult uses, its money. And to quote gore, its an inconvient truth that many young people fail at handling it in a mature manner

You can blame it and make excuses on them just being kids, but the situation, in theory, is atleast a tad avoidable.

17 states nation wide require atleast one course in economics for graduation.

Guess what-Philly and Jersey are NOT on the list.


So, Fox. I ask you this- dont you think this is a "kind of" (Sarcasm) a big issue? The fact that millions of young adults are going into the working world with little, if any, knowledge on how to spend/save/budget their money???


Well, i did an article on this topic for my school newspaper (Granted its a school newspaper- no one outside the bored kids in homeroom read it) but nonetheless, i had a point.

We spend years upon years learning about stuff we will never use, yet the one thing promised to be an issue to us is barely even mentioned unless you chose it as an elective.

So Dave....John......Shawnette.........whoever can bring up possible stories....... why not investigate this?  Im not sure what FOX has on their priorities list, but i think this ranks a tad bit higher than some guy not putting in auto parts or some girl giving away prom dresses ;)

Seriously, though. I would be thrilled if you would atleast briefly bring up this issue on the news.

Thanks
Alex

(BTW, if you do read this and do a story on it..... email me ;)

alex244444@yahoo.com)

Anyways, good day


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electrons read my blog
Nov 20, 2007 | 7:34 AM

That is crazy. You are right about the money. I was once told "no one can take away your education". Oh really? I am going for my next degree level. So check this out... the college says "we cannot grant you some of these past courses, you'll have to take them again." WHAT!!! How dare you! They claim they are too old and subjects change over the years. I am frustrated too Alex and I am thinking of writing a letter to our Congressman, or whoever is in charge of state education.

electrons read my blog
Nov 20, 2007 | 7:38 AM

One more comment...I think it is a disgrace that you need 2 years of a foreign language. You live in America. If someone that speaks Spanish or French wants to talk to you, they should learn the language of this country. Oh wait, I forgot, we have to bow and kiss the rears of everyone that comes here. My fault, I forgot.

movealready read my blog
Nov 20, 2007 | 1:08 PM

Children should know about finance before they leave the nest, but I disagree that that is the schools responsibility. I would never want some teacher to imbue their concept of economics/spending/savings in my child. How would I know about their person economic habits. This type of education is learned (as should be) directly from the parents. I've already started with my 5 Y/O. She has an allowance (5.00 per week) and has to save 80%. The rest she can purchase something for herself (after putting the money in the bank for savings). If you ask my daughter about interest, she'll tell you the following: " If you give me cookie, I'll have to pay you back 2 cookies or more depending on how it takes her to return the original cookie W/ interest". Believe me, she gets it. As for the other things, we are becoming a world community,those other languages and classes you so easily dismiss are a valuable aspect of developing a child academic world. If you want to drop some classes, drop study hall, gym and Lunch. Shorten the school day and extend the school year. Enroll the kids in outdoor sports for gym or get them outside away from the computer. Unfortunately, the teacher's union will fight you tooth and nail on this because they have no interest in teaching, only lining their pockets and doing as little as possible to actually teach our children.

AlexR read my blog
Nov 20, 2007 | 4:28 PM

Teaching students the concept of money is in no way any more subjective than chemistry or Spanish. Schools dont function by allowing the teachers to add their two cents into things; classes are focused around actual books that they have.

The point being made here, is that it IS the schools responsibility. I go to school to get an education. Yes, it should be somewhat diverse but if you HONESTLY think foreign language is more important than getting a comprehensive course in money then i would call you VERY confused. Not to mention you seem to have a pretty wild paranoia with teachers' own personal ideas. If your that worried, im sure you can keep your 5 year old out of the school system and home school him or her till he or she gets older. O wait....... have you ever seen the statistics on homeschooling?

Not too great, really.


Schools should prioritize. Money should come BEFORE calculus or physics......Personally, it should be a double backed course.


There are SO many kids in debt right now that it is not even funny. In fact, i think it is up to like 2,800 bucks a kid now. Thats not good.

And its avoidable-thats the sad part, movealready.

Think about other people besides yourself and your cookie monster.

Not to mention i have no study hall, gym is MANDATORY (look up the definition if you dont comprehend) and lunch is one mod which pretty much means you HAVE to take it.


If your going to hold an opinion on the topic....especially on the opposing side, atleast provide a reason that resembles some sort of truth ;)

movealready read my blog
Nov 20, 2007 | 5:04 PM

Wow are you misguided. It is impossible for a teacher to teach witjout imbuing their personal experience. Secondly, I believe that scholls work hand in hane with parents to give children a complete education. You infer an awful lot. What I'm saying ids parent can not and should nor rely solely on teacher to prepare them for the world. IT IS THE PARENT RESPONSIBILITY TO GAUGE WHAT IS BEING TAUGHT IN SCHOOL AND TO ADD TO GIVE THE CHILD THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS......duh'

movealready read my blog
Nov 20, 2007 | 5:06 PM

SORRY, CAN'T TYPE

AlexR read my blog
Nov 20, 2007 | 5:34 PM

Duh is right. No one is disputing that parents should be involved. What i am saying is that schools ARENT doing their fair share regarding money.

Not to mention not everyone has a great family that functions properly like you may have. Single mothers and fathers work late.... some kids fail to have relationships with parents......

There are situations where students DONT have a good home life... and the schools need to step in and educate.


(And P.S...... you dont have to tell us you cant type..... it goes under some of the 'awful" list of inferences i make ;) )

movealready read my blog
Nov 20, 2007 | 5:52 PM

What I was trying to type, and should have double checked.
Wow are you misguided. It is impossible for a teacher to teach without imbuing their personal experience. Secondly, I believe that Schools work hand in hand with parents to give their children a complete education. You infer an awful lot. What I'm saying is parents can not and should not rely solely on teachers to prepare their children for the world. It is the parents responsibility to gauge what is being taught in school, and to add; to give the child the best of both worlds.
Now to add onto my statement. Financial skills are very subjective, parents can be conservative,liberal or somewhere between, they can be risk takers or not. That's subjective. Teachers should teach the basics of finance, parents should teach the finer points. I need not worry about others because I will take the time to teach my child about finance, as I'm sure your folks will teach you. It's called responsible parenting and not relying on a broken down school system.
Your not the norm, most kids have a study hall, (a giant waste of time). Gym should be outside the ACADEMIC world, encourage kids to be outside and active and Lunch is another giant waste of time. If you remove study hall,gym and lunch from the academic arena, one could shorten the school day (encourages more focused students) and lenghthen the school year.
Before you jump all over my stuff, I suggest you comprehend and read between the lines better. Also, I suggest not getting personal, it just shows that your immature.

movealready read my blog
Nov 20, 2007 | 5:56 PM

Whew....I think were actually on the same page here. your right , most kids don't have an ideal home life, but all the more reason for the parents to work harder at raising functional kids.....

AlexR read my blog
Nov 21, 2007 | 4:10 PM

Misguided? Either your stooping down to my level or your pointing the figure at the wrong immature person, buddy.

As for most kids taking study hall.. im just going to laugh at that. Every freshman, sophomore, and junior i personally know does not take a study hall. In fact, its quite the contrary, really. A lot of kids are forced to come in before school starts to take their classes because their days are so packed

As for taking away lunch.... wow. Dont know about you, but i dont believe in starving kids. 7 hours is quite a while-long past the time the average adult indulges on a snack.

As for money-yeah-of course things are going to be subjective. Its the same with health, english, and math. You cant avoid it unless you wish to isolate your kid at home all day.

My point, which you seem to miss amid your bashing of schools, teens, and the curriculum, is that money means more than half the stuff taught at school. Prioritizing works wonders, and thats what schools need to do.

Whether your man enough to let your princess go and be exposed to something other than your radical, fundie views is another story outside my control. All i know is that many, many students know very little when it comes to economics, and that REALLY needs to stop.

movealready read my blog
Nov 21, 2007 | 8:46 PM

You bring up some good points as well. keep balsting me. It's enlightening. Happy Thanksgiving . AK

AlexR read my blog
Nov 26, 2007 | 3:04 PM

If you honestly think im the one blasting you, well, id recommend you go and reread this conversation. Your the one bashing the public school system every chance you get along with taking a stance on not teaching students about money because you cant control it.

David_Aldrich read my blog view my photos
Nov 27, 2007 | 11:43 AM

Check your calendar this week, we've got...

Cyber Monday

Take It Back Tuesday

Window Shopping Wednesday

Thinking About It Thursday

It Doesn't Fit Friday


And my personal favorite...

Still Waiting To Start Saturday



Yeah, I know. I must have way too much time on my hands. LOL.

electrons read my blog
Dec 20, 2007 | 12:51 PM

Alex, I saw this on the news...thought you'd be interested:

'Don't tase me, bro' tops year's memorable quotes
By Susan Haigh, Associated Press Writer
HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — It was the plea heard round the world.

"Don't tase me, bro" — shouted by a Florida college student as officers removed him from a speech by Sen. John Kerry — tops this year's list of most memorable quotes, compiled by the editor of the Yale Book of Quotations.

Second on the list is a quote from Lauren Upton, the Miss Teen America contestant who gave a confused and mangled response to a question about why one-fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a map.

"I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have maps and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and Iraq and everywhere like such as and I believe that they should our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. or should help South Africa and should help Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future for us," Upton said.

The words of both young people were immortalized in videos posted on YouTube, the video-sharing Web site.

"These new media are spreading these things," said editor Fred R. Shapiro, 53, associate librarian and lecturer in legal research at the Yale Law School. "I'm not listing the most admirable quotes, the most eloquent quotes. It's the most memorable quotes."

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