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It's a shame you will just take what someone else tells you as fact and accept it no questions asked. Have you ever heard a debate between scientists who believe in evolution and scientists who believe in creation? Despite all your rhetoric, in every debate like this I have seen or heard, the scientists who believe in creation win the debate and in polling audiences afterwards, more people leave believing in creation as a percentage than when they came to the debate. What are you afraid of, Alex? That we might be right? There was a time when liberal arts was the role of a university to facilitate the debate of various topics and teach people to think for themselves and reach their own conclusions. It has changed today, and now if you don't accept what they teach as fact, you are an idiot and an ignoramus. Before you are so quick to condemn this concept and museum based on a 7 minute video, perhaps you, being the opened-minded person you are, should visit this museum for yourself before drawing your conclusion. You're the type of person who would condemn a movie based on a review in the paper never actually having seen the movie yourself, which is just a bit unfair. It's also a common strategy today that when one can't debate someone on an issue based on facts and research, people result to insult and name-calling, which just proves they are incapable of having a debate and letting each person draw their own conclusion, even if not all reach the same conclusion. I think it may be time for you to question some of the things you have been taught to find out whether

Maybe your judging me as a closed-minded person-and thats absolutely wrong. In fact, I got to my "beliefs" BY asking questions. I was raised, taught, and brainwashed Catholicism for12 years of my life until I actually lookked outside the box. I wondered how could these people tell me my Earth is 6,000 years old when theres PROOF it isnt.

And thats where I laugh at people and make fun of them. Faith and religion is a place to explain the unexlainable. Like where we go when we die, who created the first life, and does God really exist. Thats faith. Ignorance is saying the Earth and universe is 6000 years old. Ignorance is stating that Noah brought Dinosaurs on a boat. Ignorance is saying that the entire world was covered in water.

And guess what? At the time, those ideas were perfectly fit-the world was flat and they were missing a lot of science. This was their way of explaining how everything worked. Adam and Eve was a STORY they made to TRY and tell how first people came to be. Its exactly like "How the turtle got its shell", or "How the robin has a red chest"--it is the same concept.


"I may not believe what you say, but I'll fight for the death for you to say it," is an awesome quote-and it is true. But that doesnt mean I cant tell you how closed-minded some people are to believe whatever the Bible and their parents tell them. Take a look at some science and see whats on the other side-its probably a lot greener.

And just to throw it out there, if your the kind of person that doesn't "believe" in carbon dating, fossilized remains of animals,geology, rock fo

So you have a bone to pick with Catholicism and the Christian faith it seems. That seems to be what this is about rather than a rational debate based on facts. That's the only reason you would call a person who doesn't accept your "facts" ignorant. Must be millions of ignorant people in the world including many of our founding fathers.

Your life is filled with many assumptions you just take as fact because that is what you have been taught. And it seems this is the case in your life in a number of subjects including creation and global warming. There are some things in life that start with faith and then evidence comes to back up what you believe. There are other things you take by faith even though the evidence to prove it may never be there. How do you know these facts that you are basing all your beliefs on are right and accurate? What happens if you find that some of the things in which you firmly believe are either wrong or you never had the full truth? The truth is one can't convince someone of something they are not open to believing even if you presented them with all the facts. I want to be open to all the facts and evidence available to me to make a decision with both eyes open, not with one or both eyes shut. I am not going to discount something just because I don't agree with it or understand it. But I'll search for the truth. There are things I have come to believe and accept today that I did not believe or accept when I was younger. Why? Because I kept seeking for truth and found that some of what I was led to believe and taught to accept as fact was wrong. I can't do your "seeking" for you nor will I ever convince you of something you are not open and willing to consider without being offended. But I would challenge you to at least look at the other side of things and search for what's hidden as it relates to different topics and beliefs. And if you've done that and you still

I think I mentioned it earlier-I more of a question asker then any curious 5 year old. And thats why I like to go out and see things for real-I like to go to museums and look at fossils-some even being humans. I like to go to different sites on the internet and read about both sides-I like to see what points open minded people have to make.

And for your reasons specified is what made me change. I am an open minded person, and I used to believe in creationism as my Catholic teacher kept elling us and telling us. So when I went to the museums and actually read some stuff, I felt it was a little bit wrong that they are teaching kids inaccurate information.

What I am saying here is, no matter what your beliefs are, there is a neutral ground that isnt suposed to be stepped on by either side. Science, by todays standards, cant say there is no heaven and no hell because they have /NO evidence for or against it. And thats why science doesnt say that. On the same note, religion isnt suposed to come out and say that the universe is 6,000 yearsd old because we have EVIDENCE against that. Too much evidence for anyone rational I have met.

What I'm saying is theres a fine line where beliefs and fact do not cross-and sadlybut yet, apparently, some people completely miss that line. You can't argue that early humans of different species didnt exist because theres evidence it does. You cant say the universe is 6000 years old because there proof it its older.
And to answer your question-If I were to go read another website in 10 years that has facts to represent another idea and ov

You've not been to the museum, and I can tell you that how you characterize this is not the case. It's filled with science just like the Natural History Museum using the same facts from a different perspective to reach a different conclusion. Not wrong, different. Carbon dating, like many scientific methods are based on assumptions. What if those assumptions prove to be wrong? Then the whole concept is false and things could be 6,000 years old, not 6 million years old. We are not all irrational as you claim. And you then also call the multitude of reputable and respected modern scientists who believe in creation irrational? Because they don't accept the "facts" as you understand them? Modern does not equal right or accurate. I was a science major and read all the books and understand the scientific method, so I am not some irrational kook that does not understand science. As this museum will show, rather than true science proving the Bible to be inaccurate or a fairy tale, the truth is that true science will always eventually be proven to line up with the Bible. There are many scientific beliefs in the past that were thought proven and used to discredit the Bible. But time after time, the research eventually proved out what the Bible said to be the case. Now the Bible doesn't address every scientific issue, mind you. But when it does, it has been proven accurate time and time again. None of us was here 6,000 years ago or 6 million years ago. So none of us can offer or bring first-hand personal experience to the debate to prove our point. But we do have no

I have talked with many people who believe in creationism and the only thing labeled proof they give me is "The bible says it, you have to believe". thats not asking questions for a purpose-thats tricking yourself into believing.

Let me put it this way.
Creationists believe the Universe was created 6,000 years ago.

There is light in the sky from stars 6,000,000 light years away from us. Thats 6,000,000 years at the speed of light. If the universe was only 6,000 years old-that would mean the farthest star could only be 6,000 light years away-meaning we have absolutely no clue about the universe at all.

So... let me see what you are trying to tell me. Your saying that every piece of modern day science *could* be inaccurate, our telescopes and ideas about the universe is wrong-our carbon dating is wrong, our geologists are wrong-yet what some jewish man in the desert wrote down in a book 2000 years ago is right?

That, my friend, is irrational./ You dont have to go to the museum to know whats in it-and i find it absolutely funny that they show T-Rex and Raptors in Noah's ark.

Then it seems you've already made up your mind. This is testing to see if what the Bible says is true, not just believing it because it's in print. You believe everything you read in the newspaper every day because you believe the people are reporting facts and you don't question it. Why then would you be so quick to write off the Bible and what it says rather than to put it to the test? Light years is a way to help man understand distance. It doesn't mean the star is 6 billion years old. If you don't believe in God, then I can understand how difficult this would be. But if you believe in a God who created everything, then why is it not reasonable to expect that He created the entire heavens and it includes stars and planets that would appear older to man than they really are. He didn't create Adam and Eve as infants. So they would have appeared to be older than we would think on the first day. Thus, we could say the earth had to be 30 years old at the time because Adam and Eve were created and appeared to be that age when the truth is that they were just created and had not been living for 30 years. You can see how your assumptions about things can make it difficult to understand these things and reach conclusions about truth. But you have to test your assumptions even if you think some other man or scientist has proven them and consider the alternatives. It's not irrationality as you state. It's a willingness to consider plausible alternatives. And you can't do that if you are just going to accept one group's view of things and write everyone else off as irra

Tool of satan is a shallow argument and clearly shows that your friend did not do her homework, which is unfortunate. Saying something is a tool of satan brings nothing productive to the debate. It may be true, but that doesn't mean it adds anything to the debate. Who cares whose tool it is? It's about looking at all the evidence fairly and reaching a conclusion, and that adds nothing to help gain a conclusion and gain understanding.